Pikey Posted February 3, 2015 Posted February 3, 2015 Hi, reference to brevity term "SHORT SKATE" defined in AFTTP3-1.1 is: "Informative or directive call to execute launch-and-leave tactics and be out no later than minimum abort range (MAR)/decision range (DR)." Could someone elaborate on this, is this like a long range sniping shot?, even pictures would be good ;) Many thanks! ___________________________________________________________________________ SIMPLE SCENERY SAVING * SIMPLE GROUP SAVING * SIMPLE STATIC SAVING *
aaron886 Posted February 4, 2015 Posted February 4, 2015 (edited) A lot of air to air weapons have a defensive zone called minimum abort range. It means that if you turn and run at that range from the shooter, you can escape the missile by outrunning it. Since MAR is an enemy weapon capability, it's often based on best guesses or classified intelligence. According to that definition, Short Skate would mean to fire your own weapon prior to MAR, and attempt to abort before MAR. Of course, it would not be a very good tactic if your weapon was not fire and forget. So, in the case of the AMRAAM, for example, you have to be certain the missile will "go active" and will guide itself before you reach MAR. When your missile is active, you might know or assume that enemy missiles are inbound, and hopefully you will be able to turn and run prior to MAR... otherwise you'll have to undergo more violent maneuvering to trash the enemy missiles. "Short Skate" would be a tactic to use primarily if you know you can get your missiles to go active before MAR. Edited February 4, 2015 by aaron886 1
Pikey Posted February 4, 2015 Author Posted February 4, 2015 Thanks, Additionally, if I we have a BRAA given at the time a short skate was ordered to the shooter, could we not infer the MAR of the AMRAAM 120-C or whatever was current? In case some of these ranges were not known publicly. ___________________________________________________________________________ SIMPLE SCENERY SAVING * SIMPLE GROUP SAVING * SIMPLE STATIC SAVING *
SDsc0rch Posted February 4, 2015 Posted February 4, 2015 it would be a good data point are you referring to something? i7-4790K | Asus Sabertooth Z97 MkI | 16Gb DDR3 | EVGA GTX 980 | TM Warthog | MFG Crosswind | Panasonic TC-58AX800U [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
aaron886 Posted February 6, 2015 Posted February 6, 2015 Thanks, Additionally, if I we have a BRAA given at the time a short skate was ordered to the shooter, could we not infer the MAR of the AMRAAM 120-C or whatever was current? In case some of these ranges were not known publicly. You might be able to determine the MAR of whatever weapon the shooter expected to face. If your audio is of someone shooting that AMRAAM, you can't infer anything about an MAR for the AMRAAM. Remember MAR depends on the enemy's capability... you're trying to figure out when you should turn and run if you don't want to get down and dirty with their missiles.
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