Akula Posted March 29, 2016 Posted March 29, 2016 Hey guys, I've been out of flaming cliffs for quite some time and every time I try to get back in I'm discouraged by the time it takes to learn the entire setup process not to mention having to sift through the labrynth of very useful posts made by the flight sim gurus we have here. coming from a noobs perspective if I want to know how to do something like take off, do a loop and land just for circuit training everyone is more that helpful to point me in the right direction but that direction usually leads to more questions as most of the info says things like; "set your trim to this" or "you'll want to engage ICS". But no one explains how. Now admittedly I'm looking for shortcuts but really who isn't? Sitting through training vid after training vid is not just tedious but confusing as you have to retain all that info. I'm now 44 and can't do that as well as I used to lol. im hoping that everyone would be open to a section that explains how to do everything from the basics to the intermediate level explaining not just what to do but HOW to do it via simple key board commands as opposed to those who say how they have their HOTAS set up and such. I have an old X-52 but for beginner training I very much prefer to learn all the keyboard commands first so that when the time comes and as I get better I can eventually assign the commands I I want to the X-52 as opposed to being thrown the the wolves having to learn it all from seasoned pilots who mean well but tend to throw a lot of info at the novice flyer. I'm wondering if someone would like to collaborate with me to help set up such a section. MB: MPG Z790 EDGE WIFI Memory: WD Black SN850X 2TB PCIe Gen4 NVMe M.2 CPU: Intel Core i9-14900K Desktop Processor 24 cores (8P+16E) 36M Cache EVGA 1200W Gold PSU MSI RTX 3090 TrackIR on Samsung 49 inch Odyssey Widescreen No money in my pocket lol
winchesterdelta1 Posted March 29, 2016 Posted March 29, 2016 It is good to study some basic things before you start. But instead of trying to learn everything perfectly from the start you can also just jump into that plane and try stuff. It is still a Simulation game with no consequences if you crash. And it's fun to crash :) How i learned is to just jump into the plane. Have your browser and team speak on your second screen and search and ask away while you are on the server flying. If you come across things you don't know you can quickly search or ask for it during or after the flight (really hard to search things while flying a fighter. Unless played in single player). And if need be you quickly jump out of the game to change some settings or controls. How i learned the Mirage without reading a letter from the manual: - Jump in free flight with a plane that starts air. Fly around a bit so you get the feel. Try some crazy stuff. Try to land. Configure joystick and try again. - Jump in Airplane on the ground. Search and watch a startup video while mimicking that in your cockpit at the same time till you have it right. Go to controls and configure the things you think are handy for startup procedure. Or just use the cockpit levers and buttons. - After this i joined a multiplayer server and team speak and asked the people how to use the Air to Air modes. I flew a bit. Asked people about what are the most important things to have on HOTAS for air to Air. Configured those. Went back to play on the server.. And do this a couple times till you have the right setup for your joystick. - After you have the basic things done. Just keep flying and dying. You will learn new tricks and figure out better settings to configure on your joystick. Be on TS so you can have fun flying with those people. And ask them things you don't understand. And everything will also be less frustrating. Keep flying and when not flying, or during flying read some parts of the manual you want to learn, watch some tutorials on YouTube and search the forums. This is maybe the most retarded way to learn it. But it works for me. :) :) Go in close, and when you think you are too close, go in closer.
Tricky11 Posted March 29, 2016 Posted March 29, 2016 http://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/?CREATED_BY=beniboi&set_filter=Y Well here are some very helpful keyboard commands.
Akula Posted March 31, 2016 Author Posted March 31, 2016 Thank you all for the replies, WD, I read your post and it is helpful *for someone with 2 screens*... therein lies the challenge. With 2 screens its easy but a tutorial should be made and written up based on the assuption that the reader is a complete novice and has a basic setup (i.e. basic flight stick nothing fancy, one monitor and a rig that can handle the game). Admitteldly I don't have a lot of patience but like many I do maintain interest when the learning curve is constantly on the rise and progress is made. Back in the day, I was well qualified on Falcon 4.0 I had bought the original game which came with a huge binder explaining everything from the start up procedure to advance combat maneuvers and refuelling. The manual approached the reader on the assumption that he/she knows nothing about flying and walks the novice through every step of the sim referring to keyboard commands. Eventually I got a flight stick and mapped the KB commands to it making the trnsition much less complicated and frustrating. This is very difficult to do in FC3. KB commands for every single task can only be obtained through the crappy video tutorial from way back in 2005. Because you constantly have to go back and forth switching from the tutorial to a mission to try it all out you can see how discouraging it is for the novice. This is why I'm saying there should be a strong reference to procedures all tied to keyboard commands for the sole purpose of training raw pilots. It would be great to have the start up procedure that goes something like this: F-15 startup: Insert key in ignition--- Shift K Turn key to ACC---- Ctrl C Turn Key to begin ignition sequence--- Shift T etc etc Of course that's not the way it goes, just giving an example but like this there is no sifting through paragraphs of info just to find out the important stuff, just straight and simple. Going back to what WD said, it's fun for me to learn the nitty gritty first and then learn how to do it all properly. At least this gets me learning all the procedures quicker than watching countless vids and sifting through a labrynth of online tutorials. I remember a few years ago, someone was offering a fully printed version of the manual in a binder. Man I wish I bought it. Would have really helped. I guess a local print shop would be the next best thing. I haven't seen the link provided in the previous post (at work and behind a firewall) but I'll check it out when I get home. Cheers all :) MB: MPG Z790 EDGE WIFI Memory: WD Black SN850X 2TB PCIe Gen4 NVMe M.2 CPU: Intel Core i9-14900K Desktop Processor 24 cores (8P+16E) 36M Cache EVGA 1200W Gold PSU MSI RTX 3090 TrackIR on Samsung 49 inch Odyssey Widescreen No money in my pocket lol
winchesterdelta1 Posted March 31, 2016 Posted March 31, 2016 Try flying the Mirage 2000C. It has a good public made manual detailed but easy to use. It's still in Alpha but still really good to fly in single or MP. Go in close, and when you think you are too close, go in closer.
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