Thank you RAZBAM!

[cauldron]

So.... i just repeatedly ran some R530 engagements from up high to see if any improvements have been made on the Radar issues. Apart from some weird display of enemy planes below your boresight as you roll left and right ( the opfor planes 'apparent' position swings wildly 10nm to the left or right on the display, as if on the display the radar is not stabilized to the horizon ) the radar did not repeat earlier lost lock issues, this time :music_whistling:

 

So, i'd love to post some tacviews, but can't right now, but suffice to say that i was engaging from 35k up to 40k feet a target at 1k feet and the target Ai would immediately turn to notch, and run. The radar lost lock right away, but as i turned to lock again and fire another missile i noticed the lost missile actually re-acquired the target and hit before my 2nd could get close.!!!!! i was amazed!

 

So, i set up the mission again and again, same thing happened, even though i tried turns to avoid the notch the M2000 radar loses lock as soon as the target notches, but i would turn in immediately go to CCM mode, lock it up and, i could reliably re-acquire the launched missiles and they would home in, sometimes even better! (because they would "loft" themselves a bit before reacquiring.)

 

Thank you Razbam, for really getting into the details.

 

Just one thing .... could you please implement some reacquire logic into the M2000 radar, or at least not have the radar reset to level it elevation when it loses lock... it takes an eternity to manually move the antenna down back to where it was. .... please, with puppies kittens and puppy beagles on top!!!!

 

cheers, sorry i didn't do any "real" testing i was having too much fun!!!!!

 

:joystick::pilotfly:

[jojo]

Please:

 

Matra R530

 

Matra Super 530D

 

Sorry, it's common mistake, I'm just trying to correct it :smilewink:

Write S530 if you want to make it short.

 

But R550 Magic.

[Chrinik]

So.... i just repeatedly ran some R530 engagements from up high to see if any improvements have been made on the Radar issues. Apart from some weird display of enemy planes below your boresight as you roll left and right ( the opfor planes 'apparent' position swings wildly 10nm to the left or right on the display, as if on the display the radar is not stabilized to the horizon ) the radar did not repeat earlier lost lock issues, this time :music_whistling:

 

So, i'd love to post some tacviews, but can't right now, but suffice to say that i was engaging from 35k up to 40k feet a target at 1k feet and the target Ai would immediately turn to notch, and run. The radar lost lock right away, but as i turned to lock again and fire another missile i noticed the lost missile actually re-acquired the target and hit before my 2nd could get close.!!!!! i was amazed!

 

So, i set up the mission again and again, same thing happened, even though i tried turns to avoid the notch the M2000 radar loses lock as soon as the target notches, but i would turn in immediately go to CCM mode, lock it up and, i could reliably re-acquire the launched missiles and they would home in, sometimes even better! (because they would "loft" themselves a bit before reacquiring.)

 

Thank you Razbam, for really getting into the details.

 

Just one thing .... could you please implement some reacquire logic into the M2000 radar, or at least not have the radar reset to level it elevation when it loses lock... it takes an eternity to manually move the antenna down back to where it was. .... please, with puppies kittens and puppy beagles on top!!!!

 

cheers, sorry i didn't do any "real" testing i was having too much fun!!!!!

 

:joystick::pilotfly:

 

Depends where the missile looked when it reaquired, but general consensus is that they should not reaquire targets because of some Radar magic being performed to only guide your missile, and not everyone elses.

 

The S530 does not have DL or INS guidance and is thus an entirely passively guided missile.

 

Wether or not it can pick up targets after lock is lost if the seeker simply sees the return again is beyond anyone, I believe.

[jojo]

Yes the Super 530D can reaquire target shortly after the lock is lost.

It doesn't have INS but it has some gyro system that will allow it to fly straight for a short period of time if lock is lost.

 

The missile seeker is tuned to it's launching aircraft radar, and if you look closely at pictures, you will find small antennas at the back of the missile, near exhaust nozzle, to receive radar signal and compare with target echo.

 

That kind of devices is standard on late Fox 1 = Semi Active Radar Homing (SARH), not passive guidance.

Edited June 28, 2016 by jojo

[Zeus67]

Depends where the missile looked when it reaquired, but general consensus is that they should not reaquire targets because of some Radar magic being performed to only guide your missile, and not everyone elses.

 

The S530 does not have DL or INS guidance and is thus an entirely passively guided missile.

 

Wether or not it can pick up targets after lock is lost if the seeker simply sees the return again is beyond anyone, I believe.

 

As long as the target remains inside the missile very narrow FOV cone, it will be reacquired by the missile when the target is locked again.

[cauldron]

Please:

 

Matra R530

 

Matra Super 530D

 

Sorry, it's common mistake, I'm just trying to correct it :smilewink:

Write S530 if you want to make it short.

 

But R550 Magic.

 

Nit picker ! Yeash.... :D just a typo bro. I truly hope no one confuses one with the other:thumbup:

 

Was hoping you'd post some puppy, kitten pics as they seem to work magic on our dear Devs hearts... hint hint....

Edited June 30, 2016 by cauldron

[cauldron]

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Please...Just one thing .... could you please implement some reacquire logic into the M2000 radar, or at least not have the radar reset to level its elevation when it loses lock... it seems to take an eternity to manually move the antenna down back to where it was. .... please, with puppies kittens and puppy beagles on top!!!! How can you refuse such eyes!

Edited June 30, 2016 by cauldron

[jojo]

like...

 

Please...Just one thing .... could you please implement some reacquire logic into the M2000 radar, or at least not have the radar reset to level its elevation when it loses lock... it seems to take an eternity to manually move the antenna down back to where it was. .... please, with puppies kittens and puppy beagles on top!!!! How can you refuse such eyes!

 

If you can assign the elevation axis to a rotary it's damn fast :smilewink:

But yeah I would agree...

 

PS: I see that R530/ Super 530 confusion soooooo often on internet :doh:

[cauldron]

Got it on the rotary... Thanks has helped a lot. Still though, wish the radar weren't so absent minded about its track memory.