imacken Posted April 30, 2017 Posted April 30, 2017 I noticed recently that my nose was incredibly floaty in the Spitfire when targeting ground objects. I then noticed in Axis tune, that my Thrustmaster T-Flight Pedals were not behaving as they should. Can you guys have a look at http://www.igmack.co.uk/rudder.mp4 and see what you think? In the video, I've included doing the same for my TM Warthog joystick pitch axis, and it is perfect. Intel i7 12700K · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A Wi-Fi · MSI 32" MPG321UR QD · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · Tobii Eye Tracker 5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Prime Grip · Virpil Control Panel 2 · Thrustmaster F-16 MFDs · HTC Vive Pro 2 · Total Controls Multifunction Button Box
Automan Posted April 30, 2017 Posted April 30, 2017 Not a normal behaviour for sure. Have you checked the switch on RJ12 connector? Is the switch in plane position? Then check the behaviour of the pedals in the calibration tool supplied by Thrustmaster. Do you see the same stucky/spiked movements? ACER Predator Orion 9000: W10H | Intel i9-7900X OC@4.5Ghz | 8x16GB Crucial Ballistix Sport | Sapphire GTX1080TI | Intel 900P 480GB | Intel 600P 256GB | HP EX950 1TB | Seagate Firecuda 2TB ACER Predator XB281HK: 28" TN G-SYNC 4K@60hz ThrustMaster Warthog Hotas, TPR, MFD Cougar Pack, HP Reverb Pro
imacken Posted April 30, 2017 Author Posted April 30, 2017 (edited) Thanks Automan, yes the adaptor is set to plane, and the behaviour in the calibration tool has always been weird. I've never understood that software! When I load it, I get the centre graphic jumping all over the place. (Brakes are both OK.) If I move the rudder to left and right max, then the gauge stabilises at 512 for a while. After a few seconds, it goes back to jumping around. (Incidentally, what are the values on the left?) If I press 'Set Centre', then everything stabilises, the app asks me to unplug to save settings. I do that, then replug and the whole thing starts again! Where are these 'settings' saved to? Edited April 30, 2017 by imacken Intel i7 12700K · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A Wi-Fi · MSI 32" MPG321UR QD · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · Tobii Eye Tracker 5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Prime Grip · Virpil Control Panel 2 · Thrustmaster F-16 MFDs · HTC Vive Pro 2 · Total Controls Multifunction Button Box
Automan Posted April 30, 2017 Posted April 30, 2017 I don't know if controller calibration is saved locally in the registry or in a rom inside the controller. Have you tried to start calibration tool with admin rights on it? ACER Predator Orion 9000: W10H | Intel i9-7900X OC@4.5Ghz | 8x16GB Crucial Ballistix Sport | Sapphire GTX1080TI | Intel 900P 480GB | Intel 600P 256GB | HP EX950 1TB | Seagate Firecuda 2TB ACER Predator XB281HK: 28" TN G-SYNC 4K@60hz ThrustMaster Warthog Hotas, TPR, MFD Cougar Pack, HP Reverb Pro
imacken Posted April 30, 2017 Author Posted April 30, 2017 OK, I've got a new problem. The tool has obviously saved settings and the centre position is stuck at 855! So, I am now only getting values of 680 (full left) to 1023 (full right)! Can't see how to get the 'normal' settings back. Intel i7 12700K · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A Wi-Fi · MSI 32" MPG321UR QD · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · Tobii Eye Tracker 5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Prime Grip · Virpil Control Panel 2 · Thrustmaster F-16 MFDs · HTC Vive Pro 2 · Total Controls Multifunction Button Box
Automan Posted April 30, 2017 Posted April 30, 2017 Can you show me a shot of your calibration tool values? ACER Predator Orion 9000: W10H | Intel i9-7900X OC@4.5Ghz | 8x16GB Crucial Ballistix Sport | Sapphire GTX1080TI | Intel 900P 480GB | Intel 600P 256GB | HP EX950 1TB | Seagate Firecuda 2TB ACER Predator XB281HK: 28" TN G-SYNC 4K@60hz ThrustMaster Warthog Hotas, TPR, MFD Cougar Pack, HP Reverb Pro
imacken Posted April 30, 2017 Author Posted April 30, 2017 Yes, see attaached. However, it's gone mad now. Pedals don't travel properly in the TM Control Panel. I need to reset to the default. Any idea how to do that? How do I uninstall and reinstall these pedals to remove the current settings? Intel i7 12700K · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A Wi-Fi · MSI 32" MPG321UR QD · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · Tobii Eye Tracker 5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Prime Grip · Virpil Control Panel 2 · Thrustmaster F-16 MFDs · HTC Vive Pro 2 · Total Controls Multifunction Button Box
Automan Posted April 30, 2017 Posted April 30, 2017 (edited) Mhm why the window is so messed up? Are you on Win7 or Win10? The Yellow slider choose the deadzone, you should move up on the left pedal, if moves... Try: -Change USB port -Start calibration tool to see if ok, if still not changed, without touching pedals, press in sequence "Set Center" and "Default Deadzone" and "Apply" Edited April 30, 2017 by Automan ACER Predator Orion 9000: W10H | Intel i9-7900X OC@4.5Ghz | 8x16GB Crucial Ballistix Sport | Sapphire GTX1080TI | Intel 900P 480GB | Intel 600P 256GB | HP EX950 1TB | Seagate Firecuda 2TB ACER Predator XB281HK: 28" TN G-SYNC 4K@60hz ThrustMaster Warthog Hotas, TPR, MFD Cougar Pack, HP Reverb Pro
imacken Posted April 30, 2017 Author Posted April 30, 2017 I'm on W10, and am now back to the brakes working, but the rudder shows centre at 1023 when Calib Tool starts! Pushing on right does nothing (still at 1023) and pushing full left shows 675. How can I remove everything to do with these pedals and start again? The problem will be if the settings are stored in ROM. Intel i7 12700K · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A Wi-Fi · MSI 32" MPG321UR QD · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · Tobii Eye Tracker 5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Prime Grip · Virpil Control Panel 2 · Thrustmaster F-16 MFDs · HTC Vive Pro 2 · Total Controls Multifunction Button Box
Automan Posted April 30, 2017 Posted April 30, 2017 Try clear calibration utility that was on this page: https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=42462 The links on first page are dead, but another user posted the zip with the utility Wingman.zip KEEP IN MIND THAT ALL CONTROLLERS WILL BE RESETTED TO DEFAULT CALIBRATION VALUES ACER Predator Orion 9000: W10H | Intel i9-7900X OC@4.5Ghz | 8x16GB Crucial Ballistix Sport | Sapphire GTX1080TI | Intel 900P 480GB | Intel 600P 256GB | HP EX950 1TB | Seagate Firecuda 2TB ACER Predator XB281HK: 28" TN G-SYNC 4K@60hz ThrustMaster Warthog Hotas, TPR, MFD Cougar Pack, HP Reverb Pro
imacken Posted April 30, 2017 Author Posted April 30, 2017 Thanks a lot for that. I have managed to get the pedals back to where I was at the start of this thread. I think there is something faulty with these pedals as full travel with left doesn't show full travel on the graphic either in the calib tool, or in the joystick controller properties panel. Also, the input value still jumps around with any slight movement. I think I'll have to call TM support on Tuesday. Intel i7 12700K · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A Wi-Fi · MSI 32" MPG321UR QD · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · Tobii Eye Tracker 5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Prime Grip · Virpil Control Panel 2 · Thrustmaster F-16 MFDs · HTC Vive Pro 2 · Total Controls Multifunction Button Box
Automan Posted April 30, 2017 Posted April 30, 2017 Are the 3 green bars aligned in joy controller properties or not? If you move the Z axis (rudder), the green bar reach up and down? You can try reusing the calibration tool, and move the slider to adjust the left pedal only. If you can solve with software adjustments, I would avoid RMA, cause of long times to get a replacement (at least in Italy :cry:) ...but if it's hardware ACER Predator Orion 9000: W10H | Intel i9-7900X OC@4.5Ghz | 8x16GB Crucial Ballistix Sport | Sapphire GTX1080TI | Intel 900P 480GB | Intel 600P 256GB | HP EX950 1TB | Seagate Firecuda 2TB ACER Predator XB281HK: 28" TN G-SYNC 4K@60hz ThrustMaster Warthog Hotas, TPR, MFD Cougar Pack, HP Reverb Pro
imacken Posted April 30, 2017 Author Posted April 30, 2017 Yes, the 3 green bars line up in that panel before I touch any pedals. Moving the rudder, does not give full deflection when pressing the left as I described in my previous post. I know what you mean about RMA times! Intel i7 12700K · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A Wi-Fi · MSI 32" MPG321UR QD · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · Tobii Eye Tracker 5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Prime Grip · Virpil Control Panel 2 · Thrustmaster F-16 MFDs · HTC Vive Pro 2 · Total Controls Multifunction Button Box
imacken Posted May 1, 2017 Author Posted May 1, 2017 I opened up the pedals unplugged and replugged all the connectors, but, unfortunately, still the same problem. Not sure whether I would recommend these pedals, but I'll wait and see what TM have to say tomorrow. Intel i7 12700K · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A Wi-Fi · MSI 32" MPG321UR QD · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · Tobii Eye Tracker 5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Prime Grip · Virpil Control Panel 2 · Thrustmaster F-16 MFDs · HTC Vive Pro 2 · Total Controls Multifunction Button Box
Automan Posted May 1, 2017 Posted May 1, 2017 (edited) It could be a defective potentiometer. Wait for TM instructions :( My rudders are still in health for now, but potentiometers are subjects to faults Edited May 1, 2017 by Automan ACER Predator Orion 9000: W10H | Intel i9-7900X OC@4.5Ghz | 8x16GB Crucial Ballistix Sport | Sapphire GTX1080TI | Intel 900P 480GB | Intel 600P 256GB | HP EX950 1TB | Seagate Firecuda 2TB ACER Predator XB281HK: 28" TN G-SYNC 4K@60hz ThrustMaster Warthog Hotas, TPR, MFD Cougar Pack, HP Reverb Pro
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