Another small question...

[thesystem]

Well....i know ED is busy with BS.

But for the Mnt-29...It just misses something...

 

Why no bolt on refueling?

Then we could also do a bit longer combat with the '29

And yes it is available for every '29. A, C and so on

 

So....:music_whistling:

[Geier]

Well....i know ED is busy with BS.

But for the Mnt-29...It just misses something...

 

Why no bolt on refueling?

Then we could also do a bit longer combat with the '29

And yes it is available for every '29. A, C and so on

 

So....:music_whistling:

 

Do you mean the in-flight refueling? ...But there's no such system on the real Mig-29(9-12 and 9-13 of course)...

[thesystem]

There is!

Have pictures of it.

 

Check:

Famous Russian Aircraft By Yefim Gordon

Mikoyan Mig-29

 

I can make a scan for you?

 

It is a bolt on system which can be applied to al mig 29's.

The SMT has a foldable system but there is also a steady system

 

And it is easely made...just a tube with some details on it...

[golfsierra2]

Do you mean the in-flight refueling? ...But there's no such system on the real Mig-29...

 

It is, at least for the SMT

 

[thesystem]

Also for the Mig-29BM....

And a retractable for the SD....

 

I will make a scan:smilewink:

Hold on....

[Geier]

Er, I meant the Mig-29's types, that we see in the LO... C (9-13c), and particularly A (9-12) have no in-flight refueling...

[thesystem]

BM = updated Mig-29C

They called it 9.11

 

I also here have a proto mig-29A!!! with aar pod....just a test base. So it is possible:smilewink:

 

And as you can see. It is just a bolt on thingy....but sure is handy!

 

And it would be nice on a long mission. Now it is takeoff.....climb, fuel saving, 1 min AB, attack, return

[Geier]

BM = updated Mig-29C

They called it 9.11

 

I also here have a proto mig-29A!!! with aar pod....just a test base. So it is possible:smilewink:

 

And as you can see. It is just a bolt on thingy....but sure is handy!

 

And it would be nice on a long mission. Now it is takeoff.....climb, fuel saving, 1 min AB, attack, return

Thx

And what about the auxillary tank? It seems to be enough for a one flight.

[Alfa]

What Geier said :)

 

The MiG-29 versions currently in Lock-on - MiG-29(9-12), MiG-29S(9-13S) and "MiG-29G"(Luftwaffe modification to 9-12A) - do not employ the bolt-on IFR system.

 

It is possible to retro-fit the system to these versions, but it wasn't done by the nations featured in Lock-on.

 

Anyway, this IFR system has so far come as part of larger upgrade "packages", which in turn means that the aircraft to which they are fitted are to be considered "new" variants and therefore re-designated to denote this - i.e. the "MiG-29BM" variant is not just a 9-13 retro-fitted with an IFR probe, but also comes with other enhancements such as ability to employ guided a2g ordinance......the MiG-29SMT with far more :) .

[thesystem]

Thanks alfa for the finishing verdict:lol:

 

Ah well...then no AAR pod....:(

[Geier]

What Geier said :)

 

The MiG-29 versions currently in Lock-on - MiG-29(9-12), MiG-29S(9-13S) and "MiG-29G"(Luftwaffe modification to 9-12A) - do not employ the bolt-on IFR system.

 

It is possible to retro-fit the system to these versions, but it wasn't done by the nations featured in Lock-on.

 

Exactly!

[Alfa]

Thanks alfa for the finishing verdict:lol:

 

Heh...well it is just my opinion that aircraft in the sim should represent closely(simulate) their real life counter parts - in this case what you are asking would not just be a case of sticking an IFR probe on the 9-12 or 9-13, but actually to change them to other variants with whatever other modifications that would require :) .

 

Ah well...then no AAR pod....:(

 

Well there is the possibility to revive the MiG-29K entry ;)

[thesystem]

But then we need a realy good 3dsmax moddeler.....with the will and knowlege to recreate the model....but it would be great

[Alfa]

But then we need a realy good 3dsmax moddeler.....with the will and knowlege to recreate the model....but it would be great

 

Indeed! :) .

 

It should be mentioned that the IFR system on the MiG-29K is a "third version"(actually the first), which is much more "refined" - the probe retracts neatly into the fuselage unlike those clumsy looking retrofit contraptions seen on the MiG-29SMT and (worse yet) MiG-29BM.

 

BTW about the "prototype MiG-29A" you mentioned having seen with the bolt-on IFR probe.....I believe what you have seen actually is the "MiG-29SD", which despite the "S" suffix, is based on the original 9-12 airframe :) .

[thesystem]

Maby you know that book from Yefig Gorden about the MIG-29.

There is a pic with that.....

 

Nice suggestion to all the '29 lovers:smilewink:

[Alfa]

Maby you know that book from Yefig Gorden about the MIG-29.

 

Well I know of it, but I don't have it myself :) .

 

There is a pic with that.....

 

My point was that MIG has a tendency to use the same airframe several times over when designing upgrades, so an aircraft that appears e.g. as a MiG-29S at one point might actually be the same airframe later appearing as an -SM prototype and later again as an -SMT......i.e. just further modified :) .

[thesystem]

Recycling?:megalol:

Aah wel...about the K.

 

Yeah thats looks good...it fits perfectly in to the fuselage with even a cover on it:thumbup: Looks good indeed