aircraft with aim-9p not considered threat by AI

[twistking]

Wow, it took me whole weekend to troubleshoot this:

 

When you arm a flight of f-5s with 9p missiles (not 9p5), enemy aircraft with escort task will not engage the f-5s and only shoot in self defense.

 

this is the most ridiculous bug i have seen so far and it's a pain to troubleshoot this, as you can imagine. should be fixed asap before other mission designers go crazy about it.

 

to replicate:

create flight of blue AI cap flight of f-5es armed with aim-9p (default loadout option), create red flight with red escort flight.

watch how escort will not try to shoot the blue flight, change f-5es loadout to f.e. 9p5s, replay and watch redfor engaging as they should do.

 

i did not test with other taskings (red cap against blu f5s f.e.) and i did not test with other aircraft types, so there might be more situations in which the loadout makes the unit not appear as a valid target! ED really has to ramp up their quality control. bugs like these cost paying customers hours of time to figure out how to work around those absurd problems.

 

tested on stable branch.

Edited March 14, 2019 by twistking

[twistking]

same with the "gar-8" (aim-9b?).

 

f-5e equipped with it will not be considered a target by AI escorts.

 

ps: i just realized, that i did not test with default loadouts, but with a custom loadout, which had the under-wing fuel-tanks removed.

so: 2*aim-9p + centerline tank

and: 2*gar-8 + centerline tank

[twistking]

can this get acknowledged or do you need more infomation? (i think it is very easy to replicate)

[Boomer20]

Is this only occurring when the flight is set to escort? As far as I'm aware in my experience escort flights wont actively engage anything until the flight their escorting is attacked or as you say in self defense. Makes it easy to set up a flight that you can bounce.

[twistking]

Is this only occurring when the flight is set to escort? As far as I'm aware in my experience escort flights wont actively engage anything until the flight their escorting is attacked or as you say in self defense. Makes it easy to set up a flight that you can bounce.

 

 

yes, flight would be in escort mode and from my experience with other aircraft and loadouts, escort aircraft would attack if an enemy aircrafts gets within the specified distance to the aircraft they are escorting.

it gets more obvious if you increase the default distance in the escort parameters.

[Tippis]

…I mean, that's a pretty accurate threat assessment by the AI. :P

[twistking]

…I mean, that's a pretty accurate threat assessment by the AI. :P

:P ... but to be serious: it seems to be a minor issue: if you know it, you can just change the loadout and it works again. BUT iamgine, how long it took me to figure out the problem. literally hours!!! :noexpression:

 

those weird bugs are the worst in some way, because they drive you crazy, until you find what's causing them!

 

hope that not only does this get fixed, but also that other loadouts on other aircrafts get checked by ED, so no poor soul has to loose its mind over something so stupid ever again...