There is no update to Hornet

[midnitereaper]

you know it just amazes me the mentality of the consumer these days! No company needs to be defended by the consumer. Either you like or dislike the product and write a review and that's pretty much it. People read and agree or disagree with those reviews then make their decision to buy. I am not going to argue but im not staying quiet either. The game industry is going downhill. Last year was the worst year I have ever seen in the industry! Fallout 76 ouch! Microtransaction COD ouch! Anthem is it still alive?! The problem with the industry is it relies on the internet way to much these days. I have been gaming since the old Atari Intellivision days. Back in the day when you purchased a game you purchased thee game! Developers back then built games then tested and fixed and tested over and over again till the game was ALL done. Balders Gate, Dungeon Keeper, Ripper, Civilization and many more fun games all done. You bought the game installed it and played the story. No internet and no weekly or monthly updates. This game has been out since 2013 on Steam. Steam does not list the game as beta or early access. The description of this game states it will take you from a beginner to advanced fighter pilot. The tutorial of this game teach you how to start and work some of the systems. YouTube videos have taught me advanced skills not this game. Hell I learned how to start up the ECM thru YouTube which should have been in the cold start tutorial! There are youtube videos over 4 years old that talk about issues in the game that still exist to this day. If you want to preorder then go for it but have some respect for your fellow consumers who are asking the company some valid questions about just how complete will the module be or whats the time frame for completion. ED I really do love this game and have lots of fun and some frustration. I am not preordering the F-16 because I just don't have faith in the game industry right now. The f-18 is a fun jet to fly and I hope to see this module fully complete and bug free soon! You know what is really funny is someone talked about Boeing and halting production of the 777 and comparing real world to this game. If ED was held to the same standards as the real world aviation industry you probably would not see this game being sold because of software issues and safety standards. Boeing cant just slap a plane together then sell it and start working on fixes as they get reported because actual lives are at stake.

[M2K]

Do you have ANY idea how much effort goes into build engines like Jenkins/Bamboo or home grown systems?

 

I have a very good idea of that, and this is why I'll never complain about a delayed release or an not included patch/branch.

 

Also, people should understand that, sometimes, adding just a "simple" capability to a single aircraft is just not modifying that aircraft, it also means adding a lot of things in the underlying engine, too, so it's also usable by others.

[David OC]

you know it just amazes me the mentality of the consumer these days! No company needs to be defended by the consumer. Either you like or dislike the product and write a review and that's pretty much it. People read and agree or disagree with those reviews then make their decision to buy. I am not going to argue but im not staying quiet either. The game industry is going downhill. Last year was the worst year I have ever seen in the industry! Fallout 76 ouch! Microtransaction COD ouch! Anthem is it still alive?! The problem with the industry is it relies on the internet way to much these days. I have been gaming since the old Atari Intellivision days. Back in the day when you purchased a game you purchased thee game! Developers back then built games then tested and fixed and tested over and over again till the game was ALL done. Balders Gate, Dungeon Keeper, Ripper, Civilization and many more fun games all done. You bought the game installed it and played the story. No internet and no weekly or monthly updates. This game has been out since 2013 on Steam. Steam does not list the game as beta or early access. The description of this game states it will take you from a beginner to advanced fighter pilot. The tutorial of this game teach you how to start and work some of the systems. YouTube videos have taught me advanced skills not this game. Hell I learned how to start up the ECM thru YouTube which should have been in the cold start tutorial! There are youtube videos over 4 years old that talk about issues in the game that still exist to this day. If you want to preorder then go for it but have some respect for your fellow consumers who are asking the company some valid questions about just how complete will the module be or whats the time frame for completion. ED I really do love this game and have lots of fun and some frustration. I am not preordering the F-16 because I just don't have faith in the game industry right now. The f-18 is a fun jet to fly and I hope to see this module fully complete and bug free soon! You know what is really funny is someone talked about Boeing and halting production of the 777 and comparing real world to this game. If ED was held to the same standards as the real world aviation industry you probably would not see this game being sold because of software issues and safety standards. Boeing cant just slap a plane together then sell it and start working on fixes as they get reported because actual lives are at stake.

 

Boeing cant just slap a plane together then sell it and start working on fixes as they get reported because actual lives are at stake.

 

Making steady progress on the MAX software update There would always be something that could be upgraded (Software) or engineered to be better in any aircraft. That also comes back to time, money / development cost. This was a real doozy that did cost lives.

 

Just take a step back and look at the bigger picture here, ED did have the system in place, like your talking about with the A-10C and Ka-50 when first out. Separate games / installs.

 

There is NO money going in that direction and especially in the very small flight sims niche. Plus you need highly skilled engineers / 3D modelers to build the thing. All the sims in the past 90's, all the combat sims had bug's. That other combat sim still has many bugs and has been worked on for 20 years ( Same engine). ED new engine is only a few years old.

 

If ED was to release this engine "fairly clean" and polished (Stop any new technology development...?), plus add vulkan api, new damage modeling, new weather, F/A-18, F-16,(Third parties? They would wait till finished?). You would be waiting 5 to 10 years possibly.

 

Also ED's software is used in D level training sim's to train pilots. civil sims are easy tho, little AI programming. Unlike ALL the different AI assets in DCS that need to behave differently and ballistics etc etc etc.

Edited June 6, 2019 by David OC

[P.Carrasco =Keep Flying=]

Dear pilots, ED and Wags are doing a great job for military aviation fans (us).

Even though the beta updates are coming slowly I'm happy, I'd better bounce with my toy than wait 2 years without it.

If they had not released it yet I would be very sad. I remember the annual announcement of every January of the year 2017 (This year F / A-18 Hornet) I waited all year and I was frustrated ...

Like I said better with him than without him.