Cornelius Posted June 10, 2019 Posted June 10, 2019 (edited) Does anybody have problems, that the probe wouldn't connect to the basket? I've been training refueling for some days, and when I hit the basket on the outer edge, the probe goes trough the basket. With the harrier this was sufficient for a connection. Yesterday I was able to hit the exact middle and again the probe went trough the basket. Also, when I initially contact the tanker, he's already extending the baskets, while in the past (about half a year ago) he has done that, after "ready pre-contact", which he's sometimes not responding to at all and yesterday only once... I tried with both C-130 and KC-135 MPRS. I just spent a very frustrating hour trying to nail the basket of an S3 without any success. I've had quite a few occasions when I swear it should have gone in - not dead center, but in my previous attempts these counted as good enough and the system would suck it in. Not anymore! Feels like the basket had collision detection completely switched off. Could this be a bug in the latest version? Edited June 10, 2019 by Cornelius
WOPR Posted June 10, 2019 Posted June 10, 2019 If you see the baskets trailing and haven't made your ready pre-contact call, then you can't assume they are actually extended. I've noticed that in missions I've made for the same purpose, the KC-135MPRS, especially, seems to have the baskets extended visually, but the simulation part of DCS doesn't appear to know they are extended. Of course, I've found a definite pattern yet either. If you get into the pre-contact position and make the ready pre-contact call whether you see the baskets or not, it should work. As a side note, on the last 2.5.4 patch, the 135MPRS basket was very very difficult to connect with in the Tomcat. The KC-130 basket seems like it more sane (at least for now).
Chaogen Posted June 10, 2019 Posted June 10, 2019 I did that in a practice mission and after struggling for a few minutes finally figured out the tanker extended that side for my AI wingman who was right behind me..
Milopapa Posted June 10, 2019 Posted June 10, 2019 If you see the baskets trailing and haven't made your ready pre-contact call, then you can't assume they are actually extended. Whaaat? So all this while I've been chasing a dead model with no refueling logic active? No wonder then... f*ck. I just assumed since the basket looked extended, I'm good to go. I'll need to try this again. PC HW: i5 3770k@4.6GHz | Asus 1080Ti | 16GB DDR3 | Samsung 850 EVO | MSI MPower Z77 Input: MS FFB2 w/ F-16 FLCS grip | CH Pro Throttle | MFG Crosswind | HTC Vive DCS modules: F-14, FW-190, P-51, Bf109, UH1, Mi-8, FC3, CE2
Cornelius Posted June 10, 2019 Author Posted June 10, 2019 If you see the baskets trailing and haven't made your ready pre-contact call, then you can't assume they are actually extended. I've noticed that in missions I've made for the same purpose, the KC-135MPRS, especially, seems to have the baskets extended visually, but the simulation part of DCS doesn't appear to know they are extended. Of course, I've found a definite pattern yet either. If you get into the pre-contact position and make the ready pre-contact call whether you see the baskets or not, it should work. As a side note, on the last 2.5.4 patch, the 135MPRS basket was very very difficult to connect with in the Tomcat. The KC-130 basket seems like it more sane (at least for now). Thx, for the info. So, the problem seem to be the missing "ready pre-contact". But what to do, if he's not answering? I mean "intend to refuel" is working, but after that he usually remains silent. Maybe I'll have to cancel it and start all over again. Will give it a try later...
WOPR Posted June 10, 2019 Posted June 10, 2019 If radio calls are ignored, check the tanker and air craft frequency and that you are using the correct radio. That's all been pretty reliable. Sent from my Pixel 2 using Tapatalk
Milopapa Posted June 11, 2019 Posted June 11, 2019 Ok, so after forcing the clear contact (tanker guys are pretty stubborn), I was finally able to refuel last night. It's pretty confusing that Jester would actually comment on my refueling attempts like normal even if I'm not cleared for it - but the basket will not do anything. PC HW: i5 3770k@4.6GHz | Asus 1080Ti | 16GB DDR3 | Samsung 850 EVO | MSI MPower Z77 Input: MS FFB2 w/ F-16 FLCS grip | CH Pro Throttle | MFG Crosswind | HTC Vive DCS modules: F-14, FW-190, P-51, Bf109, UH1, Mi-8, FC3, CE2
Cornelius Posted June 11, 2019 Author Posted June 11, 2019 (edited) O.k. it worked. Thank you very much , WOPR! [...] It's pretty confusing that Jester would actually comment on my refueling attempts like normal even if I'm not cleared for it - but the basket will not do anything. ^ this Edited June 11, 2019 by Cornelius
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