CVW-11 F-14B Radar Techniques

[SgtPappy]

Sorry overlapped with Spicemans answer but my thoughts fwiw which are kinda similar to Spicemans.

 

At the moment as mentioned earlier the missile is active off the rail. This makes following it in irelavant you are just increasing your own risk.

 

Spicemans shot at 40 to 50 nm is optimising the Rsep and in real life with a properly modelled missile you will have either shot or missed before even getting inside the targets kill range. You can set up a grinder with a wingman and never let anything inside the tgts kill zone especially with the link.

 

Your 20 nm shots are not optimising the missiles capability and following it in puts you at risk.

 

However it's way more fun good at practicing your crew co operation and your radar work rather similar to the profile I do on our training server as you get way more training out of it. Keeping the radar on a target that is manouvering inside 20 nm is way more work if you are in tws manual. Or even working in pulse after a tgt beams you and you are not below him enough. You just need to bear in mind that these are high risk manouvers that in reality you may not want to do.

 

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Thanks for the feedback guys!

 

For the most part, we will launch at 30-40 nm but the 20 nm shot is the minimum range we would do all I mentioned above. One of the main reasons we find shots under 30 nm works in this game is 1) the missile has lots of energy by the time it reaches the target and 2) lots of people use terrain masking and it starts becoming easier for the missile to hit the ground.

 

But to your point, I think we are starting to practise more being patient by firing at around 30 nm and if the missile on the TID does not seem to be tracking, we turn to gimbals in preparation to turn cold and try again later.

 

Another question I have is how realistic is the missiles showing up on radar/datalink? I always thought our AIM-54s showed up because they might be communicating with the AWG-9 but I am often seeing enemy missiles. Is this the radar actually picking them up? Is it really possible for AWACs to pick up such a small RCS and show them on datalink?

[Spiceman]

It doesn’t surprise me if AWACS could pick up a missile, depending on the missile. An AIM-54 size missile doesn’t surprise me at all.

 

Yeah, you’re AWG-9 is communicating to the Phoenix, but not via Link 4. It’s communicating via missile messages sent from the AWG-9 via a modulated CW output.

[SgtPappy]

It doesn’t surprise me if AWACS could pick up a missile, depending on the missile. An AIM-54 size missile doesn’t surprise me at all.

 

Yeah, you’re AWG-9 is communicating to the Phoenix, but not via Link 4. It’s communicating via missile messages sent from the AWG-9 via a modulated CW output.

 

Thanks Spiceman.

 

All the enemy missiles I saw on DL were AMRAAMs as only REDFOR had the F-14s which we were flying. It's not impossible to believe that these, as well as bombs could actually be picked up by AWACS, but it is pretty mind-blowing to me!

[WindyTX]

Yeah I find this kinda difficult to believe of an Aim 120c. Also the update rate is also crazy good compared to what I would expect but that is probably a DCS limitation and I would rather have that than slower.

 

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