Ignition Posted August 18, 2019 Posted August 18, 2019 Is there a rule to set the radar elevation? When the target is at the maximum rage on the TID its easy to set using the maximum and minimum numbers of the left but when the target is in between it gets really tricky. :helpsmilie:
Karon Posted August 18, 2019 Posted August 18, 2019 What do you mean with "rule"? There are a number of reasons why you want to set the elevation correctly. For instance to change the AZM of TWS to be wider and default angle may cause you to lost track. The most common usage is finding a target shown via DL. Just calculate the angle as function of the distance and the altitude of the target. See if this stuff help: https://flyandwire.com/2019/05/18/f-14-rio-awg-9-antenna-elevation-study-part-ii/ https://flyandwire.com/2019/05/24/introduction-to-the-rio-seat-antenna-elevation-mlc-countering-notching-tws/ "Cogito, ergo RIO" Virtual Backseaters Volume I: F-14 Radar Intercept Officer - Fifth Public Draft Virtual Backseaters Volume II: F-4E Weapon Systems Officer - Scrapped Phantom Articles: Air-to-Air and APQ-120 | F-4E Must-know manoevure: SYNC-Z-TURN
Ignition Posted August 18, 2019 Author Posted August 18, 2019 I was looking for this https://karonshome.files.wordpress.com/2019/05/k-f-14-awg9-elevation-model.pdf. Thanks.
Karon Posted August 18, 2019 Posted August 18, 2019 No prob! I made a version for the kneeboard as well; it's in the Download area. "Cogito, ergo RIO" Virtual Backseaters Volume I: F-14 Radar Intercept Officer - Fifth Public Draft Virtual Backseaters Volume II: F-4E Weapon Systems Officer - Scrapped Phantom Articles: Air-to-Air and APQ-120 | F-4E Must-know manoevure: SYNC-Z-TURN
Ignition Posted August 18, 2019 Author Posted August 18, 2019 No prob! I made a version for the kneeboard as well; it's in the Download area. Thanks! I saw your video, really helpful. :thumbup:
KlarSnow Posted August 19, 2019 Posted August 19, 2019 Another option for a quick setting (as long as its not a super look down scenario) is to decrement the range on the TID to below the targets range, set the coverage at that scope range so that the bandit will be between its coverage and then swap back. Quick and dirty, requires no math, and especially out at range can work like a champ. For example if it didn't make sense the way I explained it. If I know there's something at 20,000 feet 35 miles away. I could set my elevation to encompass 20,000 on a 50 scope, but if hes too close, he might be in or outside the coverage (since the elevation coverage only applies at the edge of the scope) so I drop to a 25 mile scope and make sure 20,000 is between the coverage at 25, then switch back to a 50. Now he will be on the scope at that altitude, at least until he transitions inside 25 miles.
Ignition Posted August 20, 2019 Author Posted August 20, 2019 Another option for a quick setting (as long as its not a super look down scenario) is to decrement the range on the TID to below the targets range, set the coverage at that scope range so that the bandit will be between its coverage and then swap back. Quick and dirty, requires no math, and especially out at range can work like a champ. For example if it didn't make sense the way I explained it. If I know there's something at 20,000 feet 35 miles away. I could set my elevation to encompass 20,000 on a 50 scope, but if hes too close, he might be in or outside the coverage (since the elevation coverage only applies at the edge of the scope) so I drop to a 25 mile scope and make sure 20,000 is between the coverage at 25, then switch back to a 50. Now he will be on the scope at that altitude, at least until he transitions inside 25 miles. Yeah, makes sense. I made a shorter table from the data of the table that made karon and is not as precise but its much faster to read. 1
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