GrEaSeLiTeNiN Posted January 26, 2020 Posted January 26, 2020 In RWS mode, pilot is able to bug HPT and SPT, and enter DTT, just like in TWS. Not sure if this is meant to be or is a bug. Could not find explanation in manual. Thks. AMD Ryzen 5 5600X | Gigabyte RTX 3070 Gaming OC 8GB | 64GB G.SKILL TRIDENT Z4 neo DDR4 3600Mhz | Asus B550 TUF Plus Gaming | 2TB Aorus Gen4 TM Warthog HOTAS | TrackIR 5 | Windows 10 Home x64 | My HOTAS Profiles
Nopileus Posted January 26, 2020 Posted January 26, 2020 AFAIK that is intended behavior and part of the SAM (situational awareness mode) mode you get in RWS. Note how you keep getting updates about other contacts instead of going straight into STT when bugging someone in RWS, if you designate the bugged contact again you go into STT mode.
Tiger-II Posted January 26, 2020 Posted January 26, 2020 He means bugging TWO targets in RWS. I think it's only supposed to track one in RWS. Motorola 68000 | 1 Mb | Debug port "When performing a forced landing, fly the aircraft as far into the crash as possible." - Bob Hoover. The JF-17 is not better than the F-16; it's different. It's how you fly that counts. "An average aircraft with a skilled pilot, will out-perform the superior aircraft with an average pilot."
Nopileus Posted January 26, 2020 Posted January 26, 2020 Which as far as i am aware is intended behavior as a feature of the radar. How exactly it does it i'm not sure though. Presumably it alternates between scanning both the bugged targets and sweeping for situational awareness, a hybrid of RWS and TWS if you will. If someone with more insight can correct me that's fine, i just haven't seen it being questioned in any material relating to the module, it was always explained as a feature.
Tiger-II Posted January 27, 2020 Posted January 27, 2020 That's correct. It scans as normal but builds a track for the bugged target. It does a general RWS sweep, then target scan, RWS sweep, target scan... so it can build a track. Motorola 68000 | 1 Mb | Debug port "When performing a forced landing, fly the aircraft as far into the crash as possible." - Bob Hoover. The JF-17 is not better than the F-16; it's different. It's how you fly that counts. "An average aircraft with a skilled pilot, will out-perform the superior aircraft with an average pilot."
GrEaSeLiTeNiN Posted January 27, 2020 Author Posted January 27, 2020 Here's what I'm seeing... RWS Mode: 1. Bug 1 target - goes SAM/NAM. 2. Bug 2nd target - goes DTT. 3. Able to shoot both targets down with SD10. (Is DTT intended?) TWS Mode: Same as above except no SAM/NAM. (Seems right.) STT (in RWS/TWS): Designating the same target a 2nd time to get an STT lock - I find this difficult to do. Sometimes I can get an STT, sometimes I can't and have to unlock to try again. Also, sometimes after failing to get an STT, I find I am unable to bug a 2nd target to get a DTT. I have to unlock the 1st target to try again. AMD Ryzen 5 5600X | Gigabyte RTX 3070 Gaming OC 8GB | 64GB G.SKILL TRIDENT Z4 neo DDR4 3600Mhz | Asus B550 TUF Plus Gaming | 2TB Aorus Gen4 TM Warthog HOTAS | TrackIR 5 | Windows 10 Home x64 | My HOTAS Profiles
Tiger-II Posted January 27, 2020 Posted January 27, 2020 RWS: No, I don't think so. TWS: Hmm - this maybe explains why I have trouble switching targets without realizing it. Motorola 68000 | 1 Mb | Debug port "When performing a forced landing, fly the aircraft as far into the crash as possible." - Bob Hoover. The JF-17 is not better than the F-16; it's different. It's how you fly that counts. "An average aircraft with a skilled pilot, will out-perform the superior aircraft with an average pilot."
Lymark Posted January 27, 2020 Posted January 27, 2020 (edited) Isn't DTT supposed to be a feature in RWS instead of TWS? If I understood the manual correctly, DTT would do a hard lock on enemies(basically a dual STT). So, TWS shouldn't have this mode available, right? Edited January 27, 2020 by Lymark
GrEaSeLiTeNiN Posted January 27, 2020 Author Posted January 27, 2020 If we look at DCS F/A-18C, here's how its RWS & TWS works (see diagram). It would seem the JF-17's RWS has 'LTWS built-in' and seems to support firing of SD-10s even with DTT (STT not required). Credit: Grim Reaper's YouTube Tutorial on BVR AMD Ryzen 5 5600X | Gigabyte RTX 3070 Gaming OC 8GB | 64GB G.SKILL TRIDENT Z4 neo DDR4 3600Mhz | Asus B550 TUF Plus Gaming | 2TB Aorus Gen4 TM Warthog HOTAS | TrackIR 5 | Windows 10 Home x64 | My HOTAS Profiles
Tiger-II Posted January 27, 2020 Posted January 27, 2020 As I understood it, to engage multiple targets simultaneously, TWS must be selected, then you bug only once each target (max. 2). Pickle. Enjoy fireworks. RTB. AFAIK this can't work in RWS because it can only build a track on one bugged target at a time. Motorola 68000 | 1 Mb | Debug port "When performing a forced landing, fly the aircraft as far into the crash as possible." - Bob Hoover. The JF-17 is not better than the F-16; it's different. It's how you fly that counts. "An average aircraft with a skilled pilot, will out-perform the superior aircraft with an average pilot."
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