BBQ Posted October 20, 2007 Posted October 20, 2007 My sister in law is trying to talk me into getting a Mac, instead of a new PC--because the new Mac can now boot into a windows install, essentially making it a PC. I was wary, but saw a youtube video of a guy running IL2 on a mac, with smooth framerates. Can I assume BS will work as well?
The_GOZR Posted October 20, 2007 Posted October 20, 2007 What do you want to do on a mac ? beside running PC sim To me has an ex long mac user the todays mac are a ripoff.
Shaman Posted October 20, 2007 Posted October 20, 2007 Don't believe entirely into what women say to you ;) PC is the ultimate flight sim machine. 51PVO Founding member (DEC2007-) 100KIAP Founding member (DEC2018-) :: Shaman aka [100☭] Shamansky tail# 44 or 444 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] 100KIAP Regiment Early Warning & Control officer
BBQ Posted October 20, 2007 Author Posted October 20, 2007 well, everything other than flight sims, I guess :) Video editing?
BBQ Posted October 20, 2007 Author Posted October 20, 2007 Don't believe entirely into what women say to you ;) PC is the ultimate flight sim machine. Have you owned a Mac? Or had a girlfriend ;) Just so I can get make sure we're all being objective here!
britgliderpilot Posted October 20, 2007 Posted October 20, 2007 My sister in law is trying to talk me into getting a Mac, instead of a new PC--because the new Mac can now boot into a windows install, essentially making it a PC. I was wary, but saw a youtube video of a guy running IL2 on a mac, with smooth framerates. Can I assume BS will work as well? I've historically been a dedicated Windows supporter - but with the horror story that is Vista and some first-hand experience of the superb everyday environment that is OSX . . . . I'm actually really, really tempted. The Core 2 Duo Macs have the CPU power and the RAM to run Black Shark - my brother's got a Macbook Pro as fast as my desktop, for god's sake - but where they start to fall down is the graphics card. They're not quite gaming systems yet. I'd guess BS would run on a Mac, if you dual-booted to Windows . . . . but you'd probably throw away some eyecandy. It's a shame, really - as an everyday computer I do now genuinely believe that an iMac is better, and the cost can go hang. But they don't have gaming graphics cards. A Mac with a case is too big a premium over a PC just for OSX, too ;) http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v121/britgliderpilot/BS2Britgliderpilot-1.jpg
BBQ Posted October 20, 2007 Author Posted October 20, 2007 Thanks for the detailed response Britgliderpilot. I forgot about the graphics card--and was too, thinking the CPU and RAM were up to snuff. I've historically been a dedicated Windows supporter - but with the horror story that is Vista and some first-hand experience of the superb everyday environment that is OSX . . . . I'm actually really, really tempted. The Core 2 Duo Macs have the CPU power and the RAM to run Black Shark - my brother's got a Macbook Pro as fast as my desktop, for god's sake - but where they start to fall down is the graphics card. They're not quite gaming systems yet. I'd guess BS would run on a Mac, if you dual-booted to Windows . . . . but you'd probably throw away some eyecandy. It's a shame, really - as an everyday computer I do now genuinely believe that an iMac is better, and the cost can go hang. But they don't have gaming graphics cards. A Mac with a case is too big a premium over a PC just for OSX, too ;)
Mugatu Posted October 21, 2007 Posted October 21, 2007 EA is releasing all titles natively on OS X as with ID Software, X-PLANE, and many. I use to run lomac with an X800GT on a PC and found it actually ran faster on my macbook pro (X1600). I'd agree the cards in the iMacs aren't the best out there but they're good enough unless you really what a dedicated game machine ... then again if you spending that sort of money the Mac pro comes in with Geforce 7900/Ati 1900Xts or a Quadro FX if you're really loaded. Today's mac are pretty much dollar for dollar for an equivalent notebook with the unmeasurable benefit of OS X :) Also have a look at what's topping the best sellers list on Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/software/ref=pd_ts_pg_2/102-6011898-3892162 but the problem with Lomac/DCS is it seems to be locked into Direct X and Microsoft's cunning monopoly strategies :)
BBQ Posted October 21, 2007 Author Posted October 21, 2007 But with the "bootcamp" deal--can't I boot up a Mac into XP or Vista, and so be able to run BS with DirectX? EA is releasing all titles natively on OS X as with ID Software, X-PLANE, and many. I use to run lomac with an X800GT on a PC and found it actually ran faster on my macbook pro (X1600). I'd agree the cards in the iMacs aren't the best out there but they're good enough unless you really what a dedicated game machine ... then again if you spending that sort of money the Mac pro comes in with Geforce 7900/Ati 1900Xts or a Quadro FX if you're really loaded. Today's mac are pretty much dollar for dollar for an equivalent notebook with the unmeasurable benefit of OS X :) Also have a look at what's topping the best sellers list on Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/software/ref=pd_ts_pg_2/102-6011898-3892162 but the problem with Lomac/DCS is it seems to be locked into Direct X and Microsoft's cunning monopoly strategies :)
Shaman Posted October 21, 2007 Posted October 21, 2007 Have you owned a Mac? Or had a girlfriend ;) Just so I can get make sure we're all being objective here! Being objective I believe. Look this way - I can get you sure, you'll run into troubles while trying to run BS on MAC, since it is not made with MAC in mind. There will be surely some compatibility issues, or limitations. Unless ED already has planned to go cross-platform, and debug it for MAC systems, and maybe even go Linux? But I highly doubt it. 51PVO Founding member (DEC2007-) 100KIAP Founding member (DEC2018-) :: Shaman aka [100☭] Shamansky tail# 44 or 444 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] 100KIAP Regiment Early Warning & Control officer
Mugatu Posted October 21, 2007 Posted October 21, 2007 Yep that's what I did. But with the "bootcamp" deal--can't I boot up a Mac into XP or Vista, and so be able to run BS with DirectX?
britgliderpilot Posted October 21, 2007 Posted October 21, 2007 Being objective I believe. Look this way - I can get you sure, you'll run into troubles while trying to run BS on MAC, since it is not made with MAC in mind. There will be surely some compatibility issues, or limitations. Unless ED already has planned to go cross-platform, and debug it for MAC systems, and maybe even go Linux? But I highly doubt it. Oh, you'll never be able to run Black Shark natively on Mac OSX. It's just not going to happen. But the new Macs with Intel processors can dual-boot to Windows. So you'd have OSX for everyday stuff, and then boot up Windows to play your games. It boils down to hardware and cost - can a fixed-spec Mac run a demanding piece of software, and are you willing to pay the premium over a PC ;) http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v121/britgliderpilot/BS2Britgliderpilot-1.jpg
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