[FUTURE IMPLEMENTATION] TPOD North Arrow Issues

[ChickenSim]

Some issues with the TPOD North Arrow:

 

1) TPOD North Arrow is incorrectly based on aircraft orientation. It should be based on the stare point from the perspective of the observer.

 

2) TPOD Compass Rose doesn't currently take into consideration slant angle / plane of the horizon. The compass rose should be projected onto the plane of the surface of the earth from the perspective of the observer (see DCS: A-10 TGP behavior).

 

3) TPOD North Arrow should be to the upper right of the reticle.

TPOD.trk

[RAZBAM_ELMO]

As the G4 TPOD is not fully complete all of its features will come at a later stage. However, its orientation is correct as verified by SME. Slant/ plane has been looked at and we have inquired ED to see if modelling it is in fact possible with current engine. Marking as FUTURE IMPLEMENTATION and moving to resolved.

[ChickenSim]

As always, please verify with SME. I've included Harrier

and diagrams verifying what's wrong with it, and I've got a few thousand hours looking through them, and the North arrow here in DCS isn't behaving like any pod in the US inventory.

 

Modeling should be possible because the A-10's North arrow has been working the way this one should be since it released.

[ChickenSim]

You'll notice the North arrow

swings around 180° in about a second, because the Harrier flew over the target. This is "nadir". The Harrier itself did not suddenly make 180° of heading change - the orientation of the Harrier to the target did as the target that was in front of it is now behind it.

 

 

Track included to demonstrate that this is not how the DCS Harrier is behaving.

Nadir.trk

[ChickenSim]

You can also hop in the Hornet and check it out. Same setup. Heading east, looking south at the target.

 

If I am looking south at the target, my compass's north arrow should be pointing back at me. Because that's where north is - behind me. I am north of the target. The arrow is pointing at me.

 

I don't know any other way to say it. Imagine someone standing at the starepoint and tell them to start walking north. The path they take is the way the north arrow should point.

[Hawkeye_UK]

Rose compass North alignment arrow is definitely incorrect and not like real life systems.  The North alignment arrow is vital for quick sense checking and orientation especially in low light levels but also when discussing and taking direction from FAC's in relation to ground positions and features.  This is also most relevant as part of the gameplan and talk on when they are on link with Rover / Firehawk and reviewing the footage on the ground at the same time.  

 

The North arrow always relates to the ground designation point, not the aircrafts nose direction and position as that is also known to ground FAC's through the link.

 

Your SME is incorrect and if he say's otherwise he has not used these systems, some things are not forgot.  I rather suspect there has been some bad communication or its interpretation of that discussion by Razbam. 

 

Needs resolution and rectifying. 

[Deano87]

I concur. It is not working correctly.