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[Thinder]

7 hours ago, BitMaster said:

I may repeat myself but the "GVK" RipJaw-V version of the module uses the same B-die, it just skips the LED and thus cuts cost by 60€, maybe more in Brazil.

 

BTW, Those GVK-RipJaw-V's kit are listed many times in mprime world best list. If they were any lesser than the LED version I am sure those Hardcore Overclockers would use the LED variant of that module.

 

 

Did you ever consider the possibility that Intel technicians knows what they are doing and that there might be more to it that than just the LED? Like available range of timing for example, taking the Trident Z RGB it to CAS 13 at near 4000MHz, LOL!!!... Santa is not just for kids. Mine is on the right. Stock CAS 14.

 

    

 

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Many BIOS utilities display the default timings. For instance, if your memory uses 15-15-36, you might want to try changing it to 14-14-34 as a first step.
How to Overclock RAM

 

Perhaps Intel techies tested those kits, or not but GVK-RipJaw-V appears to be limited to Cl16. In view of the results of their tests and the CAS they obtained with the TRIDENT Z RGB, NO it's not an option, you need to tweak those kits to get it at best at Cl15 and only one of them can do it being XMP-compatible, not the fastest by any mean, which proves my point: Quality has a price.

http://www.gskill.com/search?keywords=f4-3200c16d-16gvk

 

Anyway, yes, B.Die kits are worth investigating and that's why I kept suggesting using the B.Die finder, it's easy enough to use, just select the CAS (speed) and brand, so endly the case for B.Die Cl14 vs MORE of Cl16 whatever is settled, especially looking at the price of a 64GB kit Cl16 kit. Now we start to see a clearer picture of reality.

 

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Anyway, I second the CL14-3200 approach, B-die..yes yes yes. I am just not sure if someone needs the LED gimmick when all it mostly does is causing software trouble with the LED Software.

 

No disrespect meant but you really don't know what you're talking about, those LED works just fine WITHOUT the software, I never installed it and I got every option available just the same, by memory in BIOS, I don't remember, I set one scheme up and never looked back, I got other priorities than the lights in my case.

 

Then if you really think Gsklill are as bad as to sell LED for an extra 60 quid, you mistake them with Crucial seeling you Cl16 for "gaming".

 

Not everything written by internet gurus is true, especially when there is no update on the software... update. Sorted.

 

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If my budget allow I may get the LED version to match the nice new Case but if the budget says NO, it is no lesser kit just no shiny LED.

 

Again, it's NOT about the LED but the end result obtainable and for those who missed it, all the data from their tests can be seen on their CPU-Z desktop screenshot...

 

 

Then reading their tutorial we learn something:

 

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We now measure between 50 and 53 GB/s at a latency of 45 ns.

A clear limitation of our example is the fact that we are using four 8GB modules. One way to reach higher overclocking performance would be to reduce our installed module count to two, as many motherboards have difficulty maintaining higher speeds as the load across the memory slots is increased.

As with other methods of overclocking RAM, you’ll want to restart your system and run a benchmark after every change you make in order to compare results and to ensure the system is stable.

 

There is a clear difference between Intel and AMD when it comes to the way they use 1 rank RAM kits, in the case of AMD they can make use of interleaving (for servers CPUs in this example) and does just as well with 8 X kits which does not appear to be the case of Intel, at least not in this case for this particular CPU and chipset.

 

 

Now, that was in 2017, looks like all Ryzen are capable of interleaving today, then MSI advise was to use either 2X or 4X sticks combination for the 5600X, there is no penalty for using one or the other if your Motherboard chipset allows for it which is not the case for every make and chipset...

 

Edited October 6, 2021 by Thinder

[BitMaster]

Ripjaw-V goes way down in Latency, just as the LED versions do, just a matter of how much you want to spend.

 

There is a reason why those are often used in LN overclocking instead of LED versions. Less trouble booting a less complicated PCB ( led traces, LED power, etc.. )

 

Why don't you go to Gskill and check those kits.