osram Posted April 9, 2022 Posted April 9, 2022 I presume it's an INU/alignment or "FRZ" map thing, possibly? Maybe someone can try to explain? Why does the TSD coordinate grid move with panning and heading? I am trying to use the grid-names from the F10 map using the XY and 1234 1234 cursor info in the AH64's TSD to try and quickly/roughly place target and waypoints. However the grid seems to move all sorts of places when panning, with the movement of the pilot etc.? Is that intentional? So sadly almost impossible to properly and correctly target grid-names or keypads "in-flight"? Or how is that done in practice. Any advice?
osram Posted April 9, 2022 Author Posted April 9, 2022 (edited) After looking at it in some hot-start instant action; It seems to be literally like an "oldschool", purely for distance-measuring purposes... oldschool grid which behaves as if it was stuck to the back of the MFD's. Completely unrelated, detached from the actual map or any coordinate system whatsoever. That explains much, I presume. Basically useless for coordinate-grid orientation. Sadly. Edited April 9, 2022 by osram
ED Team Raptor9 Posted April 9, 2022 ED Team Posted April 9, 2022 The TSD grid is simply for distance measuring, which is why the little ballon at the top right corner shows the width of it based on the scale/zoom of the TSD. If you are showing a Chart underlay with the MGRS grid on that map, you can use that as you move the cursor around for the purposes of looking at grid locations. Afterburners are for wussies...hang around the battlefield and dodge tracers like a man. DCS Rotor-Head
osram Posted April 10, 2022 Author Posted April 10, 2022 I'm thankful for any reply @Raptor9- Not meaning to be mean or so. But that's not really a solution to the question even if no one is to blame for no available solution, it's just the decisions, possible/available tech and engineering of the Apache at that time; Unless I missed something in your reply. When I zoom to level 50 on the TSD chart I can see the "major" grid and grid-letters I presume you refer to, yes. (Unless you meant something else in your short reply) But those correspond to the grids of the F10 map when you zoom all the way out. They are so large, they could probably contain Andorra in a single grid-cell. So that's not exactly useful or practical for the question at hand; To practically orient or target via a corresponding grid or any sort of indicator/helper - corresponding to the (smaller, higher-resolution) F10 grid in the Apache. Also your reasoning seems a bit off, Imho. You make it sound as if the (for example) "10km" scale or resolution indicator makes it perfectly clear that it is basically a completely dumb, detached and basically useless grid. At least in the usual flight sim or DCS sense. At least for us "spoiled" players, that is. You know the F10 map for the small, named grid we enjoy to use seems to be defaulting to approx 5.5nm, so 10km. I can set both F10 and the Apache to a 10km grid. In a technical sense It has nothing to do with why the Apache's grid is static.
ED Team Raptor9 Posted April 10, 2022 ED Team Posted April 10, 2022 @osram, it's not "my reasoning", that's how it is. The grid on the TSD screen has nothing to do with coordinates, it is only for distance measuring. As I said in my first reply, if you have a map underlay that displays a grid on it, you can use that for determining coordinates since that is actually part of that map. The TSD grid itself is only for distance measurement in relation to the ownship. I understand what you are trying to accomplish, but the TSD grid is not used for that, nor is it designed in that manner. If you wish to find a grid on the TSD map without manually typing it in as a point, you can use the CURSOR INFO show option. 1 Afterburners are for wussies...hang around the battlefield and dodge tracers like a man. DCS Rotor-Head
osram Posted April 10, 2022 Author Posted April 10, 2022 Probably depends on the map-data, i.e. Syria seemed not to have any useful grid underlay. Maybe there are other maps with a more useful grid on the underlay. I think we are repeating ourselves here; the core separation and focus of Apache-Grid on distance-measurement should be clear by now. I answered that part after finding out myself after a few calmer, SP attempts already. The potential grid on the map-data inside the Apache charts might be an alternative on certain maps. Possibly? Thank you for that extra information and your time in any case.
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