Floyd1212 Posted April 15, 2022 Posted April 15, 2022 8 hours ago, cow_art said: I again did a long flight yesterday without touching the trim at all (just holding stick/rudder in place). I encourage everyone who has helicopter experience but struggles with the Apache to try that: Take it for a flight and don't touch the force-trim up button! I am simply amazed at how easy, predictable and smooth everything feels. I find it extremely simple to handle, as long as I keep my fingers away from the trim button. If you do end up using the Trim Up function, does the new Trim Reset function they added in the last patch clear everything out so you are like starting fresh again?
cow_art Posted April 15, 2022 Posted April 15, 2022 (edited) 51 minutes ago, Floyd1212 said: If you do end up using the Trim Up function, does the new Trim Reset function they added in the last patch clear everything out so you are like starting fresh again? Good question! For me it usually takes a while after the first Trim Up before I really start to notice the problems with the SCAS in flight behaviour. When I do a Trim Reset after I already notice these problems, then the trim reset does not help. The SCAS then still seems to act weird, even though it often does not look saturated to me (none of the green markers are stuck at the edge auf the authority box - but I don't know for sure. We are still missing the SAS Saturated warning message that should pop up). But if I do "Trim Reset" and then immediately also do a "SCAS Destaurate" (hold Trim-Up for 5 seconds until green markers have returned to center) THEN everything indeed feels like starting fresh and I find the Apache extremely easy and predictable again. And it seems to remain that way, until I start using Trim Up again. In Singleplayer I usually toggle the Active Pause while I do this reset (so I don't have to move my controls during SCAS desaturate). Seems to work well here. But I realize the whole thing might be a bit subjective. Would be interesting to know if other players experience this the same way. Can't rule out I am just imagining things. Edited April 15, 2022 by cow_art 1
Havner Posted April 15, 2022 Posted April 15, 2022 On 4/14/2022 at 8:25 AM, RodBorza said: But, again, make sure that the amount of pedal you take out is less than what you put in. Works like this: If I'm in a hover, and I want to turn right, I will slowly press pedal right. What I would normally expect to do then, is to take out the amount I've just put in, but that is not needed. What I need to do to stop the rotation is to then take out a smaller amount of left rudder, because the SCAS is already trying to stabilzia the helicopter and it will do at least half of the work for you. I've flown some more and again, this seems to be a solution for the yaw channel. It's contrary to our muscle memory from russian helicopters. But push the pedal a little and see what she does. Don't compensate back for something that hasn't happened yet (but would in a russian helo) or just to stop the movement. This makes things slower and again I'm not sure I like it but with this mindset I don't have issues in keeping yaw direction in hover without oscillations. 1 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
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