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What functionality does the Dog Ear EWR/CC have in the sim?
In reality it acts as EWR/CC for all kinds of AA, but most interestingly it can act as RWR/CC for a battery of ZU-23-2.

Some years ago i did some testing in DCS and could not see any notable difference from adding it to to any group of AA. Since this kind of testing is quite tedious i wanted to ask, if anything has changed in recent time or if you've found some functionality from using it I'd imagine that it would be helpful at nicht f.e. ...

Anyone?
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On 8/6/2022 at 1:57 AM, twistking said:

What functionality does the Dog Ear EWR/CC have in the sim?
In reality it acts as EWR/CC for all kinds of AA, but most interestingly it can act as RWR/CC for a battery of ZU-23-2.

Some years ago i did some testing in DCS and could not see any notable difference from adding it to to any group of AA. Since this kind of testing is quite tedious i wanted to ask, if anything has changed in recent time or if you've found some functionality from using it I'd imagine that it would be helpful at nicht f.e. ...

Anyone?
Thanks!

Since this is entirely a support unit — it presents no threat and cannot really protect against anything, the Sborka may seem like a completely harmless thing. It still creates issues, however. For one, when attached to any of the units it is supposed to support, it lets enemy units detect the player earlier and lets them be ready sooner. In some cases, this may seem like a disadvantage since IR-based systems like the Strelas or Iglas would otherwise not show up on the player's RWR. But on the other hand, given the breadth of units that it is supposedly attached to, this creates a problem: you have no idea what is hiding behind that RWR blip. It may just be some low-level AAA, but it might also suddenly flip over into showing an SA-15 site, or it might show nothing and out of nowhere you are yet another Tunguska victim.

It also creates problem for SEAD/DEAD aircraft since it creates another emitter that the ARM:s might go after and which needs to be resolved, filtered out, and separated from more worth-while targets.

 

From: https://www.airgoons.com/w/DCS_Reference/Air_Defences/Eastern#9S80M1_Sborka-M1_.28PPRU-M1.29_.2F_.E2.80.9CDog_Ear.E2.80.9D

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It's a search radar, so it's to be expected it doesn't increase accuracy. Our AI knows too much already, so it probably don't have that big an effect on their SA, but IRL this is its primary role. It ensures that the guy with the Igla is ready when the aircraft passes overhead, and not, say, taking a crap with the launcher leaning against a tree two meters away.

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thanks for the answers. now that you say it, i remember that the radar did indeed quicken the response time, however i found it to not make any difference, since the unit would be ready quick enough even without the radar. back then i tested with the a-10c. maybe it has a bigger effect with the faster jets, which can be outside of the engagement range much quicker...

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