Good video regarding the F-4

[Kalasnkova74]

11 hours ago, DSplayer said:

Thats cool. The radar page seems to be similar to an F-15's.

Makes sense if it’s an upgraded Turkish/Greek/South Korean Phantom II. IIRC only the Iranians are using the original APG-120 radars. 

[WinterH]

46 minutes ago, Kalasnkova74 said:

Makes sense if it’s an upgraded Turkish/Greek/South Korean Phantom II. IIRC only the Iranians are using the original APG-120 radars. 

At least speaking for the Turkish ones, APQ-120 was in use for many years alongside EL/M 2032 equipped upgraded ones. I think they were retired maybe like 5 years ago or so.

Don't know if Greece used APQ-120 jets together with upgraded ones.

As for the South Korea, don't know but, I think they didn't upgrade theirs with new radars AFAIK.

[Gwalker99]

On 9/6/2022 at 12:39 PM, _BringTheReign_ said:

I'm going to post my youtube comment on that video here, I encourage Phantom lovers to have a stiff drink on hand 

 

So much is wrong here. This video started off ok but then took a very strange nose dive after the 6:00 mark (no pun intended). 
6:20: Initial F-4's delivered to the Navy and marines did not include laser bomb guidance systems.
7:03 The F-4N upgraded variant of the B pre-dated the J
7:20 What is "operational lock on capability?" Acquiring, locking, and FIRING on a target without a human in the loop?  Is this a confused misinterpretation of the VTAS system? That's my best guess at what happened here in the research phase. Or are you referring to semi-active radar guidance for missiles? In which case, that was not pioneered on the F-4J, or even the F-4 in general, it pre-dates the F-4. 5 seconds of google will clarify what SARH is, (and the pilot still needs to pull the trigger or pickle it off, folks)
7:44 No, the F-4N is a further development of the F-4B, and pre-dates the J. The S is a post-Vietnam upgrade of the J
7:50 How specifically did smokeless engine improve the reliability and aerodynamic capability? The performance of the engine was better, but not necessarily because it was smokeless. This is confusing 
8:20 The F-4S did not serve in Vietnam 
9:03 No. Incorrect. Iran does not operate F-4J's. They received F-4D's, followed by F-4E's and R-F4E's. They have never operated an F-4J. 
10:33 Easily outmaneuvering and outshooting the MiGs after improvements to the equipment and pilot training. The initial reputation wasn't that good, and that is an important part of the history of the Phantom that directly led to the creation of TOP GUN by Dan Pederson and the rest of the bros. Would have been a nice tie-in here
10:47 What specifically about the Phantom was modular? It wasn't any more modular than other fighters, upgrades like slats and radars required substantial re-fit, it wasn't like you could just snap things on and off like lego.
11:11 From birth the F-4 Phantom was fitted with a PULSE radar, not a DOPPLER radar. It did see a doppler radar in later variants, but it absolutely did not start life with a doppler radar, this is just plain disinformation
11:28 You said meters per second but the screen shows mph 
11:47 EIGHT air to air missiles total, not twelve. 4 sparrows in recessed fuselage nacelles, and 2 pairs of sidewinders on the inboard pylons. The Navy variants had launchers on the inboard pylons as well that could fit one sparrow each as well, so a total of 6 sparrows, or 4 sparrows and 4 sidewinders. Unless you're referring to some modern frankenjet, there is no  ordnance chart of a phantom with more than 8 A2A missiles
11:58 Initial production versions of the Phantom did not have a cannon. Initial prototypes did have colt cannons, but these were removed from the design. This is what was controversial - it was a fighter that went into production and hit the fleet without a gun. There are plenty of other sources that discuss this so I won't get into it here, but the way you present it in the video is incorrect. 
12:10 Which historians? 
12:29 Interesting that you mention this here, but you never once mention the F-4E anywhere else in the video up until this point, especially given that was the definitive export version and the backbone of the USAF until the Eagle came along 
12:41 I am going to start a drinking game where every time someone says that their jet drivers coined the term "speed is life" I take a shot, as well as "one pass, haul ass". These did not originate in the Phantom community 
12:45 in truth, it was true - Phantom drivers kept their speed up to both achieve their best rate speed, and out-energy their MiG counterparts with their thrust to weight gained from the J79's. Also, at 10:33 you literally said the exact opposite statement and you don't back it up either time lmfao 
13:03 I think at this point my sanity is slipping away - THE F-4 PHANTOM IS NOT AND HAS NEVER BEEN THE PRIMARY TRAINER OF THE USAF OR NAVY
14:45 They weren't RE-designated the F-4G, the F-4G WAS the wild weasel. YGBSM!
15:23 ………. No. Just no. They retired it in 2004. Phantoms are going strong in Turkey and Greece however. 

I need a drink

You're a godamn singenie...  thanks for the corrections ... YT is full of inaccurate sh1t