New CPU Motherboard

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My 8700K and Asus Maximus Hero are now dead from a water leak so I need a new motherboard and CPU. I ordered a AMD 5800x3d but returned it after I discovered that AMD and Inter are realizing there new CPU’s very soon.

I only play Simms in VR HP Reverb 2 with a 3080 FTW mostly X-Plane 11 and X-Plane 12 when new rig is up and runing, DCS MSFS 2020 and racing Simm’s.

These are the 3 CPU’s I’m thinking about.

 

AMD R7 7700X  5.4mhz Boost

L3-Cache 32MB

ASUS Strix 670E-E Gaming WIFI Motherboard

32gb 5200 DDR5

New AMD CPU Socket AM5

New socket and new memory

 

AMD R7 5800X3D 4.5mhz Boost

L3-Cache 98MB

ASUS Strix 570E-E Gaming WIFI Motherboard

32gb 3200 DDR4

Discontinued AMD CPU Socket AM4

Can use my DDR4 3200 memory

 

Intel 12700K 5.0mhz Boost Or the new 13700K 5.3mhz Boost coming out in October

L3-Cache 25MB and 30MB

ASUS Strix 690E-A Gaming WIFI Motherboard

32gb 3200 DDR5

1700 Socket will be replaced after the 1300 Series

Can use my DDR4 3200 memory

 

I never used AMD but I’m leaning to the R7 7700X mainly because of how long the motherboard socket last. Any advice would be appreciated.  Thanks in advance.

 

[Wali763]

First thing is, if you need a new system now (as of tomorrow) or can wait some time. Ryzen 7000 is not out yet, though should be end of the month. Intels Raptorlake 13th gen should come about a month later.

If I had some time, Id opt for a 7600x in two weeks and upgrade to a 7800x3D early next year if needed.

The second gen V-Cache models (7800x3D eg) should give up to 30% uplift according to some sources. This chip could even beat Raptorlake in gaming perf. 

Obvious advantage is the new AM5 plattform and better future support. And you will have to buy DDR5 memory anyway in the future, though maybe than for a possibly cheaper price.

But if you need a system now Id think of getting a Intel-LGA1700 MB with 12700 or 12900 which are great CPUs. Or get a cheaper i5-12400 now and than upgrade to a 13700 or 13900 when they are available.

This way you could keep the DDR4 Ram but also would need a new board for DDR5 later. Not sure what you can get for a used 12400 though when upgrading.

With a 5800x3D on B550 or X570 you could also use your RAM. Gaming performance could be close or compareable to non-V-Cache-Ryzen 7000.

Its really unlucky twice, that your system broke and also broke now. In 2 months time things would be much clearer and easier to decide.

Best would be that ED finally would implement multithread support. Then a 5600x or 12600 would be easily enough.....

 

 

[5ephir0th]

If you want it today get the 5800X3D, if not wait until AMD and Intel release their new CPUs

[tomcat_driver]

12 hours ago, 5ephir0th said:

If you want it today get the 5800X3D, if not wait until AMD and Intel release their new CPUs

I am a current AMD user. If I was to choose a new system and required a new motherboard and RAM, I would get an Intel Raptor Lake, something on the line of a 13700KF or 13600KF. What AMD does well currently is marketing.

[Shortcut]

First thanks for the reply's. This is getting confusing I'm trying to future proof as much as possible. I can wait for a month or so using laptops for now no Simms. I'm thinking of the AMD R9 7900X because of the 5.6mgz boost and the 64gb level 3 Cache it should out preform the x58003d and 12700k only 25mg Cache by a good amount. I'm looking for the best for the system for the simms I love DCS, X-Plane, MSFS 2020 and a few racing simms. I'm in my 70's and this could be my last rig.

[WipeUout]

I think you should also consider upgrading your GPU in the near future.  I would try to save on the mobo/cpu in order to get a better GPU when they come out in a few months.  My i7-12700KF is amazing with a frametime mostly below 9 ms.  This gives ample breathing room to the GPU.  The graphic engine of DCS needs a fast single core speed.  The i7 delivers that at a very good price and it is cheaper than the 5800x3D.  For the 12th gen intel, you get a DDR4 mobo and save even more on the RAM.  Plus, you will still be able to upgrade once more to 13th gen in a year or two.  

Getting a better experience in DCS VR requires not only a fast single core CPU speed, it also requires a fast GPU.

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Already upgraded GPU to a 3080FTW a few months ago should have waited could get a Ti for what I paid for it. Plan on getting a 4090 when they come out. Promised my grandson the 3080 when the 4090 comes out but never planed my system dying.

It looks like the 5800x3d is out preforming just about everything in DCS, MSFS 2020 and a lot of racing Sim's do to the 96 meg of L3 Cache. That's the reason I'm looking at the R9 7900x it has 64 meg L3 the 12700K has 25 meg.

 

 

[j9murphy]

19 minutes ago, Shortcut said:

Already upgraded GPU to a 3080FTW a few months ago should have waited could get a Ti for what I paid for it. Plan on getting a 4090 when they come out. Promised my grandson the 3080 when the 4090 comes out but never planed my system dying.

It looks like the 5800x3d is out preforming just about everything in DCS, MSFS 2020 and a lot of racing Sim's do to the 96 meg of L3 Cache. That's the reason I'm looking at the R9 7900x it has 64 meg L3 the 12700K has 25 meg.

 

 

There are rumors that the 4090 will cost $2500USD or higher... ouch! if that's the case I may have to "settle" for replacing my 2080ti (which actually works really well) with a 4080 instead...

[Shortcut]

If its $2500 he will be keeping his X5700. I heard about $1500 even that's still expensive maybe a 4080 but I will try to keep my word. With out that what else do we have.

Edited September 15, 2022 by Shortcut