blewis Posted January 16, 2023 Posted January 16, 2023 Currently running a 1080ti on an older AMD 1600x on a b350 Mb with 16 GB ram. I was able to score a 4090 at retail off of Newegg. I know I am CPI limited and will be looking to upgrade soon. Wondering if I should wait until the 7000 series x3d comes out or go with an intel. Will I see any improvement with just the 4090 on the 1600x, or should I just go with the intel now and not wait to see how the 7000x3ds perform?
EightyDuce Posted January 16, 2023 Posted January 16, 2023 4 hours ago, blewis said: Currently running a 1080ti on an older AMD 1600x on a b350 Mb with 16 GB ram. I was able to score a 4090 at retail off of Newegg. I know I am CPI limited and will be looking to upgrade soon. Wondering if I should wait until the 7000 series x3d comes out or go with an intel. Will I see any improvement with just the 4090 on the 1600x, or should I just go with the intel now and not wait to see how the 7000x3ds perform? I just got a 4090 last week, coming from a 7700K overclocked, 16Gb of RAM, and a 1080ti in a custom loop. My performance is roughly 2-3 times that what it was on a 1080ti with a reverb G2. I'm running with reprojection on and Unlocked. For the most part I'm in the 45FPS reprojection range and butter smooth. On the supercarrier with a loaded deck and looking at the superstructure it drops me into 30fps reprojection still pretty smooth; that's the lowest FPS I've seen since the switch. 90% of the time I'm in butter smooth 45fps reprojection, with 90 now and then. This is on Open XR, I haven't tried SVR yet since upgrading. I am waiting to see how 7XXX X3D chips pan out before I make the decision to go that route or intel. Once things get busy more units are involved I do become CPU limited. Windows 11 23H2| ASUS X670E-F STRIX | AMD 9800X3D@ 5.6Ghz | G.Skill 64Gb DDR5 6200 28-36-36-38 | RTX 4090 undervolted | MSI MPG A1000G PSU | VKB MCG Ultimate + VKB T-Rudders + WH Throttle | HP Reverb G2 Quest 3 + VD
Nightstalker Posted March 1, 2023 Posted March 1, 2023 (edited) On 1/16/2023 at 12:46 PM, blewis said: Currently running a 1080ti on an older AMD 1600x on a b350 Mb with 16 GB ram. I was able to score a 4090 at retail off of Newegg. I know I am CPI limited and will be looking to upgrade soon. Wondering if I should wait until the 7000 series x3d comes out or go with an intel. Will I see any improvement with just the 4090 on the 1600x, or should I just go with the intel now and not wait to see how the 7000x3ds perform? Hey blewis, I don't know if you have done your upgrade yet but I will give you my experience as of late. I upgraded my old system in January form an Intel i7 9700k, 32g DDR4 and a 2080ti to an i9 13900k, 32g DDR 5 and kept my 2080ti in hopes that card prices would settle. As of now, I'm not sure I'm going to upgrade the 2080ti anytime soon. The biggest difference I have ever seen to my performance came for that new 13th gen chip. The problem with buying a new 4080 or 4090 which was my plan is that I'm seeing very little difference in performance in benchmarks I'm watching of those cards over my 2080ti in flight sims. I'm running the sim in 2k with SMAA with all the candy turned on and it runs smooth as butter. I've now tested my present system using the torture test mission available for DCS and I'm seeing very similar frame rates to the videos testing 40 series cards if not better in some cases due to the fact I'm running the new chip and they are not. They have a 4080 or 4090 and I have a 2080ti but my 13th gen chip is doing almost all of the work. I recently watched a benchmark video which compared the 2080ti vs 3080ti vs 4080 vs 4090. The test showed MSFS 2020 (also CPU limited) in 2k Ultra settings. The AVERAGE FPS was surprisingly as follows: RTX 4090 - 53, RTX 4080 - 53, RTX - 3080ti - 52 and finally RTX 2080ti - 50. There is virtually no difference in performance between all of these cards due to the sims being CPU bound. This is an obvious issue that ED is trying to fix with the core updates. From what I've seen though DLSS 2 is going to do next to nothing. DLSS 3 is where the performance gains are and they are the reason to have a 40 series card. I would spend more time thinking about the chip decision over the card decision right now. I've seen tests where the present 3d chips are definitely bottlenecking the 40 series cards. I know this is not a very scientific explanation but I hope it helps. It has been startling seeing how little difference the new cards make for sims. They do wonders for everything else but if I'm only going to gain 3fps for a 2 thousand dollar investment in sim games I have to take a pause. Edited March 1, 2023 by Nightstalker
blewis Posted March 1, 2023 Author Posted March 1, 2023 Held off upgrading the cpu until the new 7000x3d chips came out. Have an upgrade path if I go with the am5 board vs the intel. Want to see how the 7800x3d does compared to the 7950x3d and 13900.
Dogmanbird Posted April 7, 2023 Posted April 7, 2023 (edited) big price drop today in Aus for one of the non-budget models. 4 year warranty if registered online https://www.scorptec.com.au/product/graphics-cards/nvidia/99841-gv-n4090gaming-oc-24gd?utm_source=criteo&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=lowerfunnel edit - wow, just about everything is 3k or less as of today. Some things have dropped $500 overnight Edited April 7, 2023 by Dogmanbird
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