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There is a part 3 coming. that looks to cover bios etc

I posted this separately as I think people need to see.

I have been wondering about ASUS for a while now and I am less than happy now. Steve uses his outside voice at 27:00.

 

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12:20 shows the performance difference with expo on/off in various games. Some games lose over 10% or more.

 

As Steve said, expo is not at fault, it is the responsibility of the board maker to set safe voltages.

 

I think he is mostly mad with the use this beta bios and no warranty.

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Asus cluster aside, the 7800X3D failure seems to be a much more of a nothing burger than originally led on. By GNs own admission they had to really work to make it fail. 

From the very few reported incidents it's hard to tell the nature, whether user error/manipulation (attempted OC), straight up hardware defect, failure of OVP/OCP mechanism, aggressive voltage being set by board manufacturers or a culmination of all. 

Asus definitely not helping  AMDs mindshare, that's for sure. 

 

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I agree Asus isn't helping.  Do any of the other board makes have that warranty void thing?  I dunno.

Is it going to happen to everyone, not likely, but I wonder as to long term component degradation caused by going beyond the specified voltages. 

People on tight budgets save for a long time to buy these components.  Imagine finding out that your MB allowed over voltages beyond the spec which will likely age your system sooner than you expected?  I'd be pretty upset.  I for one have to run my systems for years.

Edit: I think you raise a good point in your second paragraph regarding the culmination of causes.  I remember a bit about the swiss cheese failure model theory.  

 

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