Peedee Posted September 4, 2023 Posted September 4, 2023 Hi everybody, I'm getting my Pimax Crystal this afternoon. While sitting here waiting for it, I thought I'd better off becoming a little prepared. So I started looking around the Pimax website for set up instructions - which I found. But, in there it shows how to plug the various cables into the right ports, power adapter, usb, display port and so on. BUT - should I not install the Pimax Play software first ?, before plugging anything into my PC? I can see no mention of that in their guide. Well, I did find the Pimax Play software download page, but it doesn't tell if I should install that on my PC first before connecting anything. I already have installed the latest version of OpenXr toolkit (version 1.3.2) on my PC because I've been using it with other headsets. As of now, I have no Pimax software installed on my PC. But I have downloaded PimaxXR and Quadview foveated rendering app - but have not installed any of those yet. Will make sure my headsets starts up "normal" first time, though I understand I need PimaxXR to run DCS without SteamVR's Openxr solution. And I have downloaded Pimax Play (latest release version which is 1.14... something), but not yet installed that either. Latest Beta of DCS MT installed already. Anything else I need to download? What is the correct order for doing things software (and hardware) wise? PC: I9 13900K, Asus ROG Strix GeForce RTX 4090 OC, 32 GB RAM@6000Mhz. Thrustmaster Warthog Hotas. Virpil Base for Joystick. Thrustmaster TPR Pendular Rudderpedals. Realsimulator FSSB-RL MKII ULTRA base + Realsimulator F16SGRH V2 grip VR: Pimax Crystal, 8KX, HP Reverb G2, Pico 4, Quest 2. Buttkicker Gamer Pro. Next Level Motion Platform V3.
TheHog107 Posted September 4, 2023 Posted September 4, 2023 It sounds like you have everything you need. I'd install the Pimax Play first. Then when you get the Pimax headset, simply plug it in and see how well it connects. Do things in small steps. People normally get into trouble when they try to get everything working all at once. Kinda goes for any headset really. I've had my Crystal for several months and I'm on the team evaluating the beta release for Eye Tracking/DFR. When that gets released, DCS users will get a nice boost. Cheers! 1
Peedee Posted September 4, 2023 Author Posted September 4, 2023 (edited) 13 minutes ago, TheHog107 said: It sounds like you have everything you need. I'd install the Pimax Play first. Then when you get the Pimax headset, simply plug it in and see how well it connects. Do things in small steps. People normally get into trouble when they try to get everything working all at once. Kinda goes for any headset really. I've had my Crystal for several months and I'm on the team evaluating the beta release for Eye Tracking/DFR. When that gets released, DCS users will get a nice boost. Cheers! Thanks! I installed Pimax Play now. I got an error message during that installation pretty quickly... So could choose Retry, Ignore or Abort - the usual Windows way of solving this. So tried Retry a couple of times - that did not work so aborted. Tried again, but ran the Pimax Play installer as administrator - and this time I could almost finnish the setup program, but just before it finnished - another error message - corrupt file, so Retry, Ignore or abort. Just for the heck of it I chose "Retry" and after two times hitting that, it continued.. Now, up until now at least, I have have a very stable system. I use this PC just for gaming and simming, and never had any issues with either Reverb G2 or the Pico 4 on this PC. So, not at good start there with the Pimax setup software. Hopefully it will work correctly in the end. I could launch the Pimax Play software and log into my account. But I have not yet connected the headset, still charging batteries. The software version is the newest on their web page - found here: https://pimax.com/downloads-manuals/ Crossing my fingers now I will know more later this afternoon. Edited September 4, 2023 by Peedee PC: I9 13900K, Asus ROG Strix GeForce RTX 4090 OC, 32 GB RAM@6000Mhz. Thrustmaster Warthog Hotas. Virpil Base for Joystick. Thrustmaster TPR Pendular Rudderpedals. Realsimulator FSSB-RL MKII ULTRA base + Realsimulator F16SGRH V2 grip VR: Pimax Crystal, 8KX, HP Reverb G2, Pico 4, Quest 2. Buttkicker Gamer Pro. Next Level Motion Platform V3.
TheHog107 Posted September 6, 2023 Posted September 6, 2023 could be a conflict with some other piece of software. It should have installed without errors, I've not experienced this. Perhaps contact Pimax support. 1
Peedee Posted September 6, 2023 Author Posted September 6, 2023 3 hours ago, TheHog107 said: could be a conflict with some other piece of software. It should have installed without errors, I've not experienced this. Perhaps contact Pimax support. Thanks, but it seems to be working as it should. Been testing a bit since I got it and the colors and clarity is amazing! Hard to get good performance though. Motion reprojection is not working good. PC: I9 13900K, Asus ROG Strix GeForce RTX 4090 OC, 32 GB RAM@6000Mhz. Thrustmaster Warthog Hotas. Virpil Base for Joystick. Thrustmaster TPR Pendular Rudderpedals. Realsimulator FSSB-RL MKII ULTRA base + Realsimulator F16SGRH V2 grip VR: Pimax Crystal, 8KX, HP Reverb G2, Pico 4, Quest 2. Buttkicker Gamer Pro. Next Level Motion Platform V3.
TheHog107 Posted September 7, 2023 Posted September 7, 2023 what are the specs of your computer? And what resolution are you running at?
Peedee Posted September 8, 2023 Author Posted September 8, 2023 20 hours ago, TheHog107 said: what are the specs of your computer? And what resolution are you running at? Thanks for asking My PC: I9 13900K, Asus ROG Strix GeForce RTX 4090 OC, 32 GB RAM@6000Mhz. Resolution - well tried a few different settings, but 3500x4142 I think it was last time I played and checked with OpenXR toolkit. I can not get stable 90fps with that resolution. To get stable 90fps I have to lower the resolution so much - or tune down graphic settings so much - that buying the Crystal would seem a waste of lot of money. I get more than 45fps of course, but since motion reprojection/motion smoothing don't work that well, that doesn't help. I have to turn that off. And so that gives me judder. Which I really really don't like at all. With my Reverb G2 I usually used motion reprojection, which worked better than on the Crystal. And with my Pico 4 (same resolution as G2) with the Virtual Desktop solution I got a crisp picture with more or less stable 72fps (or above) - which the Pico 4headset could lock on at. I really wish Crystal would get a 72fps option like Pico4 has. Then I could get smooth gaming and crystal clear picture with the Crystal. Yeah, I know some people get motion sickness with lower than 90fps but me - nope. I can take it. But below 72.... naaaaaaah... too low. So stable 72 and I am good. So - my problem is - not getting 90 fps stable, and motion smoothing not working good, and 72fps not being an option with the headset. But - that being said - I did a bit of flying and being able to spot ground targets really good (at least compared to my other headsets) was... nice PC: I9 13900K, Asus ROG Strix GeForce RTX 4090 OC, 32 GB RAM@6000Mhz. Thrustmaster Warthog Hotas. Virpil Base for Joystick. Thrustmaster TPR Pendular Rudderpedals. Realsimulator FSSB-RL MKII ULTRA base + Realsimulator F16SGRH V2 grip VR: Pimax Crystal, 8KX, HP Reverb G2, Pico 4, Quest 2. Buttkicker Gamer Pro. Next Level Motion Platform V3.
TheHog107 Posted September 8, 2023 Posted September 8, 2023 (edited) You actually have a better system than me (I have a I9 13900K with a RTX4090 running older RAM at like half your speed) and I get 80 to 120 when playing an instant mission P51D furball vs FW190 A. Do you have MSA turned on in the settings. I turn off all Anti-aliasing, due to the high resolution of the Crystal. Yes motion smoothing sucks. However with your system, I don't think you need it. I just checked and I am running DCS at 3684 X 4359. Do you have Turbo turned on in the OpenXR toolkit? Edited September 8, 2023 by TheHog107
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