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Hi everybody,

in Chuck Guides page 331 about LANTIRN: "The QDES cannot be automatically transferred to the WCS (Weapon Control System), but the RIO can enter it manually using the target location information in the pod video feed"
I don't find any information how to enter the target location ? because QDES does not show bomb release cue.

thanks by advance

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I'm not sure I'm following. You want to create a steerpoint over the target's location? If that's the case, just create one using latlong and elevation collected from the pod. The position will differ a bit though.

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thanks for your reply, and I myself don't understand what Chuck Guide page 331 means. If I add a surface taget location with LatLong collected, I could have  a CCRP fall line bomb and bomb release cue ? Sorry, it's not really clear for me WCS and LANTIRN.

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1 hour ago, irq11 said:

thanks for your reply, and I myself don't understand what Chuck Guide page 331 means. If I add a surface taget location with LatLong collected, I could have  a CCRP fall line bomb and bomb release cue ? Sorry, it's not really clear for me WCS and LANTIRN.

Ok, let's take a step back. Imagine the pod as a fancy tool sticked with some tape on the Tomcat: the integration is minimal and one-way. What you can do is slewing the pod to a steerponint you have created and that's pretty much it.

There is not CCRP in the Tomcat, there is a Computer Target. It is somewhat similar, but it is much older than the CCRP you are probably thinking about. Put it this way: the INS is good but not as precise as modern devices, ergo you can't drop on a waypoint with a solution provided by WCS.

This is where the pod comes in: since you can slew it on a steerpoint, you can create one provided by another asset, correct the imprecisions, and drop using *the pod's cue*.

 

What I think the glorious Chuck means, is that you can do the process I just mentioned but in reverse: you move the point where you want it (QDes), copy latlongs and elevation on a piece of paper from the pod, then create any steerpoint there in the WCS. This may help if you have numerous targets, or working with an Echo point, or you just need to "save" that position.


I think you have mixed up the two things: you cannot enter the target's coordinates directly. Rather, you create a steerpoint and slew the pod there. As mentioned, the position will not be precise.

I suggest reading the manual to better understand how the pod and the WCS works. Ask if still have issues!

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On 9/11/2023 at 3:02 PM, irq11 said:

thank you very much for your detailed response 🙂 , it's little bit more clear now.

Happy to help, shout if you have more questions 🙂

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