F16Ex stick question

[Madman3353]

with the ex add-on to the f-16 stick is there a way to use one of the extra joystick buttons as the mouse pointer. i would like to use two buttons on the f15ex throttles as left and right click then use the joystick as the mouse so that i do not have to use the mouse in the click able cockpit planes. is that possible if so how can i do it?

[MustangSally]

Only 3rd party programs will enable that. You could try Joystick Gremlin

[Madman3353]

3 minutes ago, MustangSally said:

Only 3rd party programs will enable that. You could try Joystick Gremlin

Will that interfere with the simapp pro bindings?

[MustangSally]

No idea mate, never used it

[twopac187]

17 hours ago, Madman3353 said:

Will that interfere with the simapp pro bindings?

It shouldn't. None of the SimAppPro profiles seem to bind much of anything to those extra buttons. I did recently find one that bound some nvg functions to the top hat switch, but that was the first time that anything in the winwing loaded profiles was bound to those two switches. That said, your in-game bindings can be switched no matter what profile you loaded from SimAppPro. This includes third-party software like Joystick Gremlin that you might use. I use the bottom "stick" push button for my Discord PTT. The bottom "stick" is probably the one that you would want to use for mouse replacement for what it's worth since it is not a 4?-way hat switch like the top button is and seems to be something you could bind an axis function to like the radar slew or something. That would seem to be more in line with what you would want for a mouse replacement. That said, I don't know how useful it would be. It would be tough to control and take a while to travel across the screen I would imagine, much like using the little nubby mouse button on an old laptop instead of using the trackpad. 

 

Personally, I just have a wireless mouse that I use for flying. You can either get a mount attachment to give you a surface or use something else (I actually use a TV tray that I set next to my chair). It's not a perfect solution, but it keeps the mouse handy for when you need it, and probably works better than that little joystick would.

[Madman3353]

5 minutes ago, twopac187 said:

It shouldn't. None of the SimAppPro profiles seem to bind much of anything to those extra buttons. I did recently find one that bound some nvg functions to the top hat switch, but that was the first time that anything in the winwing loaded profiles was bound to those two switches. That said, your in-game bindings can be switched no matter what profile you loaded from SimAppPro. This includes third-party software like Joystick Gremlin that you might use. I use the bottom "stick" push button for my Discord PTT. The bottom "stick" is probably the one that you would want to use for mouse replacement for what it's worth since it is not a 4?-way hat switch like the top button is and seems to be something you could bind an axis function to like the radar slew or something. That would seem to be more in line with what you would want for a mouse replacement. That said, I don't know how useful it would be. It would be tough to control and take a while to travel across the screen I would imagine, much like using the little nubby mouse button on an old laptop instead of using the trackpad. 

 

Personally, I just have a wireless mouse that I use for flying. You can either get a mount attachment to give you a surface or use something else (I actually use a TV tray that I set next to my chair). It's not a perfect solution, but it keeps the mouse handy for when you need it, and probably works better than that little joystick would.

thank you i will end up using the stick for the radar eventually for now im trying use it for training purposes and not to the radar portion yet. plus doing it in vr so i figured it would help a little. not the end of the world though. i look at joystick gremlin and that program look confusing as hell so i might just give up on that for now.

[Madman3353]

 on to another question. for the stick the paddle is both a button and a slider. is it possible to set the slider portion as zoom in and return. i set the slider but is there a way set the default position as center and the the depress as the action. when i set it as soon as i pull it, it zoo ms like i want it but then when returned its all the way to the end. please see picture for refrence

[twopac187]

2 hours ago, Madman3353 said:

thank you i will end up using the stick for the radar eventually for now im trying use it for training purposes and not to the radar portion yet. plus doing it in vr so i figured it would help a little. not the end of the world though. i look at joystick gremlin and that program look confusing as hell so i might just give up on that for now.

If you are talking VR, you should take a look at PointClick or TapStrap products. The PointClick is like a year wait for manufacturing but is the best option I've seen. TapStrap is a good replacement in the meantime. Both will run you about $170, but it's a good option for VR to replace the need for a mouse. The TapStrap can actually be configured to work as a virtual keyboard too, so that could be useful in some situations. I haven't played around with mine much yet because I haven't made the jump to playing VR at all (though I have a Quest3). I want to get things set up to be able to use a passthrough filter to see some of my physical components while in VR and I just haven't had the time to tinker with it just yet.

 

 

As for your other question about the sliders. I think you can accomplish what you are trying to do by adjusting the saturation or the In/Out fields. You would have to play around with it a bit to figure out what needs to be changed. I had an issue with my throttle at one time (in the F-16) where the idle position on my throttle was actually showing in game as being about 10% forward of the idle position. I have the Winwing F-16 throttle, so there is a physical detent preventing me from just pulling it back to compensate, so I had to adjust the X saturation back from 100% to fix the problem. Now it works perfectly. I would assume it would be a similar fix for that lever. I will say however, that I use one of the little levers on my Winwing throttle base for zoom. It works great because it has a middle detent so you can zoom in or out and then back to middle with ease. I find it pretty easy to reach that lever with my left hand while flying without too much trouble.