RWR high pitched sounds and volume bug?

[malarcky]

Since the last update the RWR sounds seems to be very high pitched now, they are very annoying to me, and if you lower the volume at minimum, they sounds play at normal volume for 0.5 seconds. Is this a bug? The sounds before the patch where much more comfortable to hear.

[LizardKingYB]

4 hours ago, malarcky said:

Since the last update the RWR sounds seems to be very high pitched now, they are very annoying to me, and if you lower the volume at minimum, they sounds play at normal volume for 0.5 seconds. Is this a bug? The sounds before the patch where much more comfortable to hear.

I noticed the same. But Idk how it's supposed to be. Maybe somebody can explain.

[Cat107]

The high-pitched audio is expected for some radars. The frequncy is based on the given radar characteristics (affected not only by radar type but also the current mode). However there are some bugs with the audio volume currently. They should be fixed in the next patch  

[primus_TR]

Every radar has a different pitch. For example, a Mig23 radar has a lower pitch than a Mig19 radar, but a higher pitch than a Mig21 radar. F4 has a lower pitch than Mig21, but higher than Mirage1. And be sure that the handoff button is not pushed in; it makes the radar which is the primary threat sound continuously. 

[1qsb28]

 

On 6/13/2024 at 3:43 AM, primus_TR said:

Every radar has a different pitch. For example, a Mig23 radar has a lower pitch than a Mig19 radar, but a higher pitch than a Mig21 radar. F4 has a lower pitch than Mig21, but higher than Mirage1. And be sure that the handoff button is not pushed in; it makes the radar which is the primary threat sound continuously. 

seems like there is just one or two CW/conical scan type audio files being used for all radars.  The fan song should most definitly be a rattle snake sound as the beams sweep something like 16 times a second (unless in LORO mode)  any search radar such as the Flat face or Bar Lock should be just a single "chirp" once per rotation.  "Singer low" and "Singer High" seem to be omitted altogether.

[MBot]

Yes, also the SA-6 Straight Flush has the same high pitched continuous tone for search and track mode, even though the search and the tracking radar are two separate systems (the search radar is rotating).

[primus_TR]

Yes, looks like there are many placeholder sounds. 

[Cat107]

Hi, based on our extensive research we believe that ALR-46 wouldn't give such "raw" audio as @1qsb28 is describing. For example this Fan Song rattle would be hearable in case of APR-25 but not in the ALR-46 as the way it generates audio is more synthetic so to speak. It analyzes the given radar PRF and generates the sound based on that, it's not so "direct" as in some other systems.

Edited June 26, 2024 by Cat107

[malarcky]

I was not refering at the sounds of the radars itself, I was refering to the sound when a new contact appear, and when it locks, at least in my system the sound its extremely uncomfortable, to the point I dont fly the F-4 because of that, it would be possible to tune them without breaking IC myself?

Also the volume bug its still present, when you lower the volume to the minimum, you can still hear new contacts sometimes.

[Cat107]

The "New Guy Audio" is probably the sound you are referring to. It plays when a new conctact is deteced or known conctact changes the PRF (pulse repetition frequency), for example when switching to lock. It consists of 3 beeps and the sound is dictacted by the PRF of given emitter (it's the same audio you would here in handoff mode just divided into 3 short beeps).

Currently there is a bug which causes the volume knob to not affect the actual RWR volume sometims but it seems to be already fixed internally and the fix should be shipped in the next patch.

Due to their PRF, some radars produce an audio tone which is high-pitched and it's expected. If you would like to adjust the tones you can find the files here: <DCS installation folder>\Mods\aircraft\F-4E\Sounds\Effects\Aircrafts\RHAW\radars. However I'm not sure if adjusting them would pass IC.

I would also recommend taking a look at this chapter of the manual: https://f4.manuals.heatblur.se/systems/defensive_systems/radar_warning_receiver.html
Cheers 

Edited July 25, 2024 by Cat107

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[Stackup]

On 7/25/2024 at 3:33 PM, Cat107 said:

I would also recommend taking a look at this chapter of the manual: https://f4.manuals.heatblur.se/systems/defensive_systems/radar_warning_receiver.html

So, is there a possibility we eventually get an earlier analog strobe RWR for the F-4E?  Both in the manual and in game, the RWR housing is for the APR-36.  Are there plans to give us a proper ALR-46 housing instead of an APR-36 housing with ALR-46 innards?  Or is the housing the same for both RWRs and the only difference is the internal systems and that's why this wasn't ever corrected?  Only difference from the manual I can tell is that the AN/APR-36(V) text was removed for the in game model.  Would be nice to get an earlier RWR as an option for the F-4 given the work being done for the F-14A's ALR-45.

The manual: 

In game:

[Zabuzard]

There are no plans for the earlier RWR, no. Afaik, historically, that would even be pre-DSCG (but don't quote me on that).

The newer RWR can technically be installed in the housing of the older RWR, as the screen and knob both support the new interface and are compatible.

We didn't intend to have this confusion though, it is classified as bug in the 3D model which will eventually be addressed.

[Stackup]

14 hours ago, Zabuzard said:

There are no plans for the earlier RWR, no. Afaik, historically, that would even be pre-DSCG (but don't quote me on that).

Darn, although I must say I would rather see a naval F-4 and the rest of your roadmap, the F-14A early and A-6E for instance, before a third F-4E variant since we're already getting DSCG and DMAS.

14 hours ago, Zabuzard said:

The newer RWR can technically be installed in the housing of the older RWR, as the screen and knob both support the new interface and are compatible.

We didn't intend to have this confusion though, it is classified as bug in the 3D model which will eventually be addressed.

Got it.  So it would kind of work, but you're eventually gonna change the housing to be more accurate to the ALR-46.