Sir Charcharro Posted June 2, 2009 Posted June 2, 2009 (edited) I've just bought the game and installed. As usual, i faced multiple problems. This time it wasn't any installation problem, but a huge amount of crashes and mission starting problem. I'm able to start the game, it usually starts without anything unusual. When I start a mission (or training or editor mission or campaign), then I'm transferred to my desktop. I can't see any clue of BS, not even any activity on the process list. Suddenly (after 1-2 minutes) a small window pops up [startImage](just like the autorun setup window, where's a pilot and his KA-50) that stays there for a while. After this, I'm transferred to game again and I see a loading window[startImage-2] that is the same type as in LOMAC, but with KA-50 style. The problem that annoys me is that transfer to desktop. Then about the crashes... The crashes can accur at several points like at the smaller loading window when transferred to desktop, at the end of the big loadingscreen (similar to LOMAC's) when its says "Please wait" and the loading 'tube' is about 2/3 and at the end of that big loading screen when its completely loaded. 5 last crashlogs: # -------------- 20090601-233659 -------------- C:\Windows\system32\DINPUT8.dll # C0000005 ACCESS_VIOLATION at 754E5B7B 01:00014B7B # # EAX = 00050202 # EBX = 0D8C8A40 # ECX = 00000502 # EDX = 0D8D7D28 # ESI = 0D8647C0 # EDI = 00003C18 # CS:EIP = 0023:754E5B7B # SS:ESP = 002B:0017ED08 EBP = 0017ED68 # DS = 002B ES = 002B FS = 0053 GS = 002B # Flags = 00010202 754E5B7B 0017ED68 0001:00014B7B C:\Windows\system32\DINPUT8.dll DirectInput8Create()+798F 754E5B7B 0017ED68 0001:00014B7B C:\Windows\system32\DINPUT8.dll DirectInput8Create()+798F 754E7486 0017ED80 0001:00016486 C:\Windows\system32\DINPUT8.dll DirectInput8Create()+929A 754E7793 0017EFFC 0001:00016793 C:\Windows\system32\DINPUT8.dll DirectInput8Create()+95A7 754E38BE 0017F014 0001:000128BE C:\Windows\system32\DINPUT8.dll DirectInput8Create()+56D2 754D5BA9 0017F03C 0001:00004BA9 C:\Windows\system32\DINPUT8.dll 754DE41C 0017F05C 0001:0000D41C C:\Windows\system32\DINPUT8.dll DirectInput8Create()+230 754DE499 0017F07C 0001:0000D499 C:\Windows\system32\DINPUT8.dll DirectInput8Create()+2AD 02507480 7C3AC1D1 0001:00006480 E:\Pelit\Ka-50 Black Shark\bin\stable\NewInput.dll ??4ForceFeedback@@QAEAAV0@ABV0@@Z()+3240 56ADE87C 7C3AC1D5 0000:00000000 EC83FFFF 7C3AC1D9 0000:00000000 57565314 7C3AC1DD 0000:00000000 FFF06589 7C3AC1E1 0000:00000000 DB330C75 7C3AC1E5 0000:00000000 E8EC5D89 7C3AC1E9 0000:00000000 00021507 7C3AC1ED 0001:00000507 E:\Pelit\Ka-50 Black Shark\bin\stable\lua.dll lua_rawequal()+7 8B08758B 7C3AC1F1 0000:00000000 8B068BF8 7C3AC1F5 0000:00000000 448B0440 7C3AC1F9 0000:00000000 C33B1830 7C3AC1FD 0000:00000000 3B087E59 7C3AC201 0000:00000000 2B047EC7 7C3AC205 0000:00000000 56D88BC7 7C3AC209 0000:00000000 E8E04D8D 7C3AC20D 0000:00000000 FFFF5DB8 7C3AC211 0000:00000000 00FC6583 7C3AC215 0001:001C5583 E:\Pelit\Ka-50 Black Shark\bin\stable\protect.dll 00E47D80 7C3AC219 0001:00046D80 E:\Pelit\Ka-50 Black Shark\bin\stable\protect.dll 45C70C75 7C3AC21D 0000:00000000 __ # -------------- 20090602-092236 -------------- C:\Windows\system32\DINPUT8.dll # C0000005 ACCESS_VIOLATION at 72F35B7B 01:00014B7B # # EAX = 00050202 # EBX = 0D8A3C40 # ECX = 00000502 # EDX = 0D8B2F28 # ESI = 0D84ADB8 # EDI = 00003C18 # CS:EIP = 0023:72F35B7B # SS:ESP = 002B:0017F18C EBP = 0017F1EC # DS = 002B ES = 002B FS = 0053 GS = 002B # Flags = 00010202 72F35B7B 0017F1EC 0001:00014B7B C:\Windows\system32\DINPUT8.dll DirectInput8Create()+798F 72F35B7B 0017F1EC 0001:00014B7B C:\Windows\system32\DINPUT8.dll DirectInput8Create()+798F 72F37486 0017F204 0001:00016486 C:\Windows\system32\DINPUT8.dll DirectInput8Create()+929A 72F37793 0017F480 0001:00016793 C:\Windows\system32\DINPUT8.dll DirectInput8Create()+95A7 72F338BE 0017F498 0001:000128BE C:\Windows\system32\DINPUT8.dll DirectInput8Create()+56D2 72F25BA9 0017F4C0 0001:00004BA9 C:\Windows\system32\DINPUT8.dll 72F2E41C 0017F4E0 0001:0000D41C C:\Windows\system32\DINPUT8.dll DirectInput8Create()+230 72F2E461 0017F4FC 0001:0000D461 C:\Windows\system32\DINPUT8.dll DirectInput8Create()+275 72F317DB 0017F520 0001:000107DB C:\Windows\system32\DINPUT8.dll DirectInput8Create()+35EF 72F2E584 0017F994 0001:0000D584 C:\Windows\system32\DINPUT8.dll DirectInput8Create()+398 72F2E647 0017F9C0 0001:0000D647 C:\Windows\system32\DINPUT8.dll DirectInput8Create()+45B 02517ED7 0017FA44 0001:00006ED7 E:\Pelit\Ka-50 Black Shark\bin\stable\NewInput.dll ??4ForceFeedback@@QAEAAV0@ABV0@@Z()+3C97 0252684F 0017FBC4 0001:0001584F E:\Pelit\Ka-50 Black Shark\bin\stable\NewInput.dll ?restartAllDevices@NewInput@@QAEXXZ()+F 00448671 0017FEE0 0001:00047671 E:\Pelit\Ka-50 Black Shark\bin\stable\dcs.exe 006AC3B5 0017FF88 0001:002AB3B5 E:\Pelit\Ka-50 Black Shark\bin\stable\dcs.exe 7723E4A5 0017FF94 0001:0007E4A5 C:\Windows\syswow64\kernel32.dll BaseThreadInitThunk()+E 777ACFED 0017FFD4 0001:0006CFED C:\Windows\SysWOW64\ntdll.dll RtlCreateUserProcess()+8C 777AD1FF 0017FFEC 0001:0006D1FF C:\Windows\SysWOW64\ntdll.dll RtlCreateProcessParameters()+4E __ # -------------- 20090602-093824 -------------- C:\Windows\system32\DINPUT8.dll # C0000005 ACCESS_VIOLATION at 75805B7B 01:00014B7B # # EAX = 00050202 # EBX = 00AE2A10 # ECX = 00000502 # EDX = 00AF3CF8 # ESI = 00AB19F8 # EDI = 00003C18 # CS:EIP = 0023:75805B7B # SS:ESP = 002B:0017EE4C EBP = 0017EEAC # DS = 002B ES = 002B FS = 0053 GS = 002B # Flags = 00010202 75805B7B 0017EEAC 0001:00014B7B C:\Windows\system32\DINPUT8.dll DirectInput8Create()+798F 75805B7B 0017EEAC 0001:00014B7B C:\Windows\system32\DINPUT8.dll DirectInput8Create()+798F 75807486 0017EEC4 0001:00016486 C:\Windows\system32\DINPUT8.dll DirectInput8Create()+929A 75807793 0017F140 0001:00016793 C:\Windows\system32\DINPUT8.dll DirectInput8Create()+95A7 758038BE 0017F158 0001:000128BE C:\Windows\system32\DINPUT8.dll DirectInput8Create()+56D2 757F5BA9 0017F180 0001:00004BA9 C:\Windows\system32\DINPUT8.dll 757FE41C 0017F1A0 0001:0000D41C C:\Windows\system32\DINPUT8.dll DirectInput8Create()+230 757FE499 0017F1C0 0001:0000D499 C:\Windows\system32\DINPUT8.dll DirectInput8Create()+2AD 024D7480 7C3AC1D1 0001:00006480 E:\Pelit\Ka-50 Black Shark\bin\stable\NewInput.dll ??4ForceFeedback@@QAEAAV0@ABV0@@Z()+3240 56ADE87C 7C3AC1D5 0000:00000000 EC83FFFF 7C3AC1D9 0000:00000000 57565314 7C3AC1DD 0000:00000000 FFF06589 7C3AC1E1 0000:00000000 DB330C75 7C3AC1E5 0000:00000000 E8EC5D89 7C3AC1E9 0000:00000000 00021507 7C3AC1ED 0001:00000507 E:\Pelit\Ka-50 Black Shark\bin\stable\lua.dll lua_rawequal()+7 8B08758B 7C3AC1F1 0000:00000000 8B068BF8 7C3AC1F5 0000:00000000 448B0440 7C3AC1F9 0000:00000000 C33B1830 7C3AC1FD 0000:00000000 3B087E59 7C3AC201 0000:00000000 2B047EC7 7C3AC205 0000:00000000 56D88BC7 7C3AC209 0000:00000000 E8E04D8D 7C3AC20D 0000:00000000 FFFF5DB8 7C3AC211 0000:00000000 00FC6583 7C3AC215 0001:000F5583 E:\Pelit\Ka-50 Black Shark\bin\stable\protect.dll 00E47D80 7C3AC219 0000:00000000 45C70C75 7C3AC21D 0000:00000000 __ # -------------- 20090602-094018 -------------- C:\Windows\system32\DINPUT8.dll # C0000005 ACCESS_VIOLATION at 75805B7B 01:00014B7B # # EAX = 00050202 # EBX = 00DE2A08 # ECX = 00000502 # EDX = 00DF3CF0 # ESI = 00DB19F0 # EDI = 00003C18 # CS:EIP = 0023:75805B7B # SS:ESP = 002B:0017EE4C EBP = 0017EEAC # DS = 002B ES = 002B FS = 0053 GS = 002B # Flags = 00010202 75805B7B 0017EEAC 0001:00014B7B C:\Windows\system32\DINPUT8.dll DirectInput8Create()+798F 75805B7B 0017EEAC 0001:00014B7B C:\Windows\system32\DINPUT8.dll DirectInput8Create()+798F 75807486 0017EEC4 0001:00016486 C:\Windows\system32\DINPUT8.dll DirectInput8Create()+929A 75807793 0017F140 0001:00016793 C:\Windows\system32\DINPUT8.dll DirectInput8Create()+95A7 758038BE 0017F158 0001:000128BE C:\Windows\system32\DINPUT8.dll DirectInput8Create()+56D2 757F5BA9 0017F180 0001:00004BA9 C:\Windows\system32\DINPUT8.dll 757FE41C 0017F1A0 0001:0000D41C C:\Windows\system32\DINPUT8.dll DirectInput8Create()+230 757FE499 0017F1C0 0001:0000D499 C:\Windows\system32\DINPUT8.dll DirectInput8Create()+2AD 00C97480 7C3AC1D1 0001:00006480 E:\Pelit\Ka-50 Black Shark\bin\stable\NewInput.dll ??4ForceFeedback@@QAEAAV0@ABV0@@Z()+3240 56ADE87C 7C3AC1D5 0000:00000000 EC83FFFF 7C3AC1D9 0000:00000000 57565314 7C3AC1DD 0000:00000000 FFF06589 7C3AC1E1 0000:00000000 DB330C75 7C3AC1E5 0000:00000000 E8EC5D89 7C3AC1E9 0000:00000000 00021507 7C3AC1ED 0001:00000507 E:\Pelit\Ka-50 Black Shark\bin\stable\lua.dll lua_rawequal()+7 8B08758B 7C3AC1F1 0000:00000000 8B068BF8 7C3AC1F5 0000:00000000 448B0440 7C3AC1F9 0000:00000000 C33B1830 7C3AC1FD 0000:00000000 3B087E59 7C3AC201 0000:00000000 2B047EC7 7C3AC205 0000:00000000 56D88BC7 7C3AC209 0000:00000000 E8E04D8D 7C3AC20D 0000:00000000 FFFF5DB8 7C3AC211 0000:00000000 00FC6583 7C3AC215 0000:00000000 00E47D80 7C3AC219 0000:00000000 45C70C75 7C3AC21D 0000:00000000 __ # -------------- 20090602-101440 -------------- C:\Windows\system32\DINPUT8.dll # C0000005 ACCESS_VIOLATION at 75805B7B 01:00014B7B # # EAX = 00050202 # EBX = 0D9B05A0 # ECX = 00000502 # EDX = 0D9BFDA8 # ESI = 0D98D858 # EDI = 00003C18 # CS:EIP = 0023:75805B7B # SS:ESP = 002B:0017EB84 EBP = 0017EBE4 # DS = 002B ES = 002B FS = 0053 GS = 002B # Flags = 00010202 75805B7B 0017EBE4 0001:00014B7B C:\Windows\system32\DINPUT8.dll DirectInput8Create()+798F 75805B7B 0017EBE4 0001:00014B7B C:\Windows\system32\DINPUT8.dll DirectInput8Create()+798F 75807486 0017EBFC 0001:00016486 C:\Windows\system32\DINPUT8.dll DirectInput8Create()+929A 75807793 0017EE78 0001:00016793 C:\Windows\system32\DINPUT8.dll DirectInput8Create()+95A7 758038BE 0017EE90 0001:000128BE C:\Windows\system32\DINPUT8.dll DirectInput8Create()+56D2 757F5BA9 0017EEB8 0001:00004BA9 C:\Windows\system32\DINPUT8.dll 757FE41C 0017EED8 0001:0000D41C C:\Windows\system32\DINPUT8.dll DirectInput8Create()+230 757FE499 0017EEF8 0001:0000D499 C:\Windows\system32\DINPUT8.dll DirectInput8Create()+2AD 024C7480 7C3AC1D1 0001:00006480 E:\Pelit\Ka-50 Black Shark\bin\stable\NewInput.dll ??4ForceFeedback@@QAEAAV0@ABV0@@Z()+3240 56ADE87C 7C3AC1D5 0000:00000000 EC83FFFF 7C3AC1D9 0000:00000000 57565314 7C3AC1DD 0000:00000000 FFF06589 7C3AC1E1 0000:00000000 DB330C75 7C3AC1E5 0000:00000000 E8EC5D89 7C3AC1E9 0000:00000000 00021507 7C3AC1ED 0001:00000507 E:\Pelit\Ka-50 Black Shark\bin\stable\lua.dll lua_rawequal()+7 8B08758B 7C3AC1F1 0000:00000000 8B068BF8 7C3AC1F5 0000:00000000 448B0440 7C3AC1F9 0000:00000000 C33B1830 7C3AC1FD 0000:00000000 3B087E59 7C3AC201 0000:00000000 2B047EC7 7C3AC205 0000:00000000 56D88BC7 7C3AC209 0000:00000000 E8E04D8D 7C3AC20D 0000:00000000 FFFF5DB8 7C3AC211 0000:00000000 00FC6583 7C3AC215 0001:00225583 E:\Pelit\Ka-50 Black Shark\bin\stable\protect.dll 00E47D80 7C3AC219 0001:000A6D80 E:\Pelit\Ka-50 Black Shark\bin\stable\protect.dll 45C70C75 7C3AC21D 0000:00000000 __ Specs: Intel Core2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.4GHz nVidia GeForce 8800 GT 512MB 4GB RAM (4x1Gb ddr2) Vista Ultimate 64bit Sorry for my lousy english :cry::helpsmilie: Edited June 2, 2009 by Sir Charcharro 11600K/3080Ti/32gb/1Tb NVME/HP G2
Sir Charcharro Posted June 2, 2009 Author Posted June 2, 2009 Forgot to add that I'm on pretty basic level in computing and scripting, so those of you who want to help, might also want to go a bit more detailed :) 11600K/3080Ti/32gb/1Tb NVME/HP G2
ZaltysZ Posted June 2, 2009 Posted June 2, 2009 Any fancy mouse? List all your controllers (including keyboard and mouse). Wir sehen uns in Walhalla.
Sir Charcharro Posted June 2, 2009 Author Posted June 2, 2009 Microsoft Sidewinder mouse(the older one) and keyboard... 11600K/3080Ti/32gb/1Tb NVME/HP G2
ZaltysZ Posted June 2, 2009 Posted June 2, 2009 Aha, Sidewinder. There is some sort of incompatibility between DCS and this mouse. You can do a search on this forum with keyword "sidewinder" and you will see that you are not alone. Sadly, currently there is no solution to this problem except that which involves using other mouse instead of Sidewinder. Wir sehen uns in Walhalla.
Sir Charcharro Posted June 2, 2009 Author Posted June 2, 2009 Oh, thanks :) I got other mouses, but what about the keyboard? Is it a problem too? 11600K/3080Ti/32gb/1Tb NVME/HP G2
ZaltysZ Posted June 2, 2009 Posted June 2, 2009 I don't remember any reports about keyboard so far. Well, hook other mouse and try playing; if there are no more errors with DINPUT8, then you will know that keyboard is ok ;) Wir sehen uns in Walhalla.
Sir Charcharro Posted June 2, 2009 Author Posted June 2, 2009 My god! Thanks a bunch! ...I never could've imagined that a mouse would cause problems :D Thanks once more! 11600K/3080Ti/32gb/1Tb NVME/HP G2
Ulrich Posted June 2, 2009 Posted June 2, 2009 Aha, Sidewinder. There is some sort of incompatibility between DCS and this mouse. There is some sort of incompatibility between DirectInput and this mouse, not between DCS and this mouse.
EtherealN Posted June 2, 2009 Posted June 2, 2009 Ahah! That explains a lot about why that mouse specifically has such severe problems. Cheers Ulrich. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Daniel "EtherealN" Agorander | Даниэль "эфирныйн" Агорандер Intel i7 2600K @ 4.4GHz, ASUS Sabertooth P67, 8GB Corsair Vengeance @ 1600MHz, ASUS GTX 560Ti DirectCU II 1GB, Samsung 830series 512GB SSD, Corsair AX850w, two BENQ screens and TM HOTAS Warthog DCS: A-10C Warthog FAQ | DCS: P-51D FAQ | Remember to read the Forum Rules | | | Life of a Game Tester
Sir Charcharro Posted June 2, 2009 Author Posted June 2, 2009 Ok, I just went trough several missions and no crashes, really nice. But what about this popping back to desktop and again into game? Anything to do about it? 11600K/3080Ti/32gb/1Tb NVME/HP G2
EtherealN Posted June 2, 2009 Posted June 2, 2009 No. That is because there are two executables. Launcher.exe for the single player menu, and DCS.exe for the actual simulation. When you start a mission, Launcher.exe prepares some temporary files for DCS.exe and then exits after calling DCS.exe, in order to preserve resources. The alternative would have been to still have the routines in Launcher.exe still active, which would eat CPU time for no gain in an application that is already massively CPU-hungry. So that is not a bug in any way - it's one executable exiting and a new one starting. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Daniel "EtherealN" Agorander | Даниэль "эфирныйн" Агорандер Intel i7 2600K @ 4.4GHz, ASUS Sabertooth P67, 8GB Corsair Vengeance @ 1600MHz, ASUS GTX 560Ti DirectCU II 1GB, Samsung 830series 512GB SSD, Corsair AX850w, two BENQ screens and TM HOTAS Warthog DCS: A-10C Warthog FAQ | DCS: P-51D FAQ | Remember to read the Forum Rules | | | Life of a Game Tester
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