beastfang Posted November 4, 2024 Posted November 4, 2024 Is there any way to enhance vision of aerial targets while using VR? How can a dog fight or fox 1 in such visual conditions? 9900K | 4090 | 32Gb | Quest 3 | VD Link | RS FSSB R3L MKII"ULTRA" + RS F16 Side Grips GRH V2 | Winwing Orion Throttle Base II + TGRIP F16 | TM TPR | Winwing ICP | DIY AH-64 KU | Buick GL8 Seat | USB Cigarette Lighter | Cambridge Audio DACMagic 200M | Aura AST-2B-04 | Genelec 8010A
slughead Posted November 5, 2024 Posted November 5, 2024 Use your TGP. As far as I know, even RLP use it to identify aircraft visually. Slugmouse: a finger-mounted mouse button emulator for hand-tracked VR cockpit clicking. Available now! Slugmouse Demonstration Video
Dragon1-1 Posted November 6, 2024 Posted November 6, 2024 At that distance, TGP. Tomcat and later Phantom versions had a TV camera for this exact purpose, and on the Viper, TGP does that. VID is much easier if you can zoom in on your target.
beastfang Posted November 6, 2024 Author Posted November 6, 2024 9小时前,slughead说: Use your TGP. As far as I know, even RLP use it to identify aircraft visually. 4小时前,Dragon1-1说: At that distance, TGP. Tomcat and later Phantom versions had a TV camera for this exact purpose, and on the Viper, TGP does that. VID is much easier if you can zoom in on your target. I said fox1&dogfight,in that situation. I think no body will use TGP in that situation to track your target and so many immersive servers like 80s,they do not have F2 F10 9900K | 4090 | 32Gb | Quest 3 | VD Link | RS FSSB R3L MKII"ULTRA" + RS F16 Side Grips GRH V2 | Winwing Orion Throttle Base II + TGRIP F16 | TM TPR | Winwing ICP | DIY AH-64 KU | Buick GL8 Seat | USB Cigarette Lighter | Cambridge Audio DACMagic 200M | Aura AST-2B-04 | Genelec 8010A
slughead Posted November 6, 2024 Posted November 6, 2024 I missed the part about dogfight as it was at the end under the photos. I can’t say that I’ve had a problem whilst dogfighting. I had a quick test with the new spotting dots and found them to be more realistic in that they’re not huge blobs anymore. I was still just about to make out the “dot” even without a TD box around it. Slugmouse: a finger-mounted mouse button emulator for hand-tracked VR cockpit clicking. Available now! Slugmouse Demonstration Video
beastfang Posted November 22, 2024 Author Posted November 22, 2024 2024/11/6 PM5点50分,slughead说: I missed the part about dogfight as it was at the end under the photos. I can’t say that I’ve had a problem whilst dogfighting. I had a quick test with the new spotting dots and found them to be more realistic in that they’re not huge blobs anymore. I was still just about to make out the “dot” even without a TD box around it. Hi,what VR equipment do you use? I use Quest 3 , openXR mode , use VD Link You can see my parameters in the screenshot 9900K | 4090 | 32Gb | Quest 3 | VD Link | RS FSSB R3L MKII"ULTRA" + RS F16 Side Grips GRH V2 | Winwing Orion Throttle Base II + TGRIP F16 | TM TPR | Winwing ICP | DIY AH-64 KU | Buick GL8 Seat | USB Cigarette Lighter | Cambridge Audio DACMagic 200M | Aura AST-2B-04 | Genelec 8010A
slughead Posted November 22, 2024 Posted November 22, 2024 1 minute ago, beastfang said: Hi,what VR equipment do you use? I use Quest 3 , openXR mode , use VD Link You can see my parameters in the screenshot Quest Pro, VD. Godlike. PD might be 1.1 - I’d have to check. Slugmouse: a finger-mounted mouse button emulator for hand-tracked VR cockpit clicking. Available now! Slugmouse Demonstration Video
beastfang Posted November 25, 2024 Author Posted November 25, 2024 yes,PD 1.1 is good for picture,but no way to enhance vision of aerial targets. So sad This means that VR players will not be able to engage in aerial combat. 9900K | 4090 | 32Gb | Quest 3 | VD Link | RS FSSB R3L MKII"ULTRA" + RS F16 Side Grips GRH V2 | Winwing Orion Throttle Base II + TGRIP F16 | TM TPR | Winwing ICP | DIY AH-64 KU | Buick GL8 Seat | USB Cigarette Lighter | Cambridge Audio DACMagic 200M | Aura AST-2B-04 | Genelec 8010A
Qcumber Posted November 25, 2024 Posted November 25, 2024 On 11/4/2024 at 7:30 AM, beastfang said: Is there any way to enhance vision of aerial targets while using VR? How can a dog fight or fox 1 in such visual conditions? You are really pushing the limits on your system. The decoding latency is very high. You want to keep it below 12 ms. Try using h264+ at 200. You could also reduce refresh rate to 72 Hz that would then allow you to increase the supersampling to 1.3 or higher. Then see how distant objects look. What AA are you using? 9800x3d - rtx5080 FE - 64Gb RAM 6000MHz - 2Tb NVME - Quest Pro (previous rift s and Pico 4). Afghanistan – Channel – Cold War Germany - Kola - Normandy 2 – Persian Gulf - Sinai - Syria - South Atlantic. BF-109 - FW-190 A8 - F4 - F5 - F14 - F16 - F86 - I16 - Mig 15 - Mig 21 - Mosquito - P47 - P51 - Spitfire.
beastfang Posted November 26, 2024 Author Posted November 26, 2024 10小时前,Qcumber说: You are really pushing the limits on your system. The decoding latency is very high. You want to keep it below 12 ms. Try using h264+ at 200. You could also reduce refresh rate to 72 Hz that would then allow you to increase the supersampling to 1.3 or higher. Then see how distant objects look. What AA are you using? I will try now,thanks 9900K | 4090 | 32Gb | Quest 3 | VD Link | RS FSSB R3L MKII"ULTRA" + RS F16 Side Grips GRH V2 | Winwing Orion Throttle Base II + TGRIP F16 | TM TPR | Winwing ICP | DIY AH-64 KU | Buick GL8 Seat | USB Cigarette Lighter | Cambridge Audio DACMagic 200M | Aura AST-2B-04 | Genelec 8010A
beastfang Posted November 26, 2024 Author Posted November 26, 2024 10小时前,Qcumber说: You are really pushing the limits on your system. The decoding latency is very high. You want to keep it below 12 ms. Try using h264+ at 200. You could also reduce refresh rate to 72 Hz that would then allow you to increase the supersampling to 1.3 or higher. Then see how distant objects look. What AA are you using? Thanks bro IT IS HELPFUL Although not as good as before,but it worked 1 9900K | 4090 | 32Gb | Quest 3 | VD Link | RS FSSB R3L MKII"ULTRA" + RS F16 Side Grips GRH V2 | Winwing Orion Throttle Base II + TGRIP F16 | TM TPR | Winwing ICP | DIY AH-64 KU | Buick GL8 Seat | USB Cigarette Lighter | Cambridge Audio DACMagic 200M | Aura AST-2B-04 | Genelec 8010A
Qcumber Posted November 26, 2024 Posted November 26, 2024 57 minutes ago, beastfang said: Thanks bro IT IS HELPFUL Although not as good as before,but it worked Try pushing SS higher. Turn off any antialiasing. Are you using any sharpening? 9800x3d - rtx5080 FE - 64Gb RAM 6000MHz - 2Tb NVME - Quest Pro (previous rift s and Pico 4). Afghanistan – Channel – Cold War Germany - Kola - Normandy 2 – Persian Gulf - Sinai - Syria - South Atlantic. BF-109 - FW-190 A8 - F4 - F5 - F14 - F16 - F86 - I16 - Mig 15 - Mig 21 - Mosquito - P47 - P51 - Spitfire.
beastfang Posted November 26, 2024 Author Posted November 26, 2024 4分钟前,Qcumber说: Try pushing SS higher. Turn off any antialiasing. Are you using any sharpening? supersampling more higher? I will Try now and trun off any antialiasing 9900K | 4090 | 32Gb | Quest 3 | VD Link | RS FSSB R3L MKII"ULTRA" + RS F16 Side Grips GRH V2 | Winwing Orion Throttle Base II + TGRIP F16 | TM TPR | Winwing ICP | DIY AH-64 KU | Buick GL8 Seat | USB Cigarette Lighter | Cambridge Audio DACMagic 200M | Aura AST-2B-04 | Genelec 8010A
slughead Posted November 26, 2024 Posted November 26, 2024 It may be worth it if you post screenshots of your settings so we can guide you quicker. Slugmouse: a finger-mounted mouse button emulator for hand-tracked VR cockpit clicking. Available now! Slugmouse Demonstration Video
beastfang Posted November 26, 2024 Author Posted November 26, 2024 28分钟前,Qcumber说: Try pushing SS higher. Turn off any antialiasing. Are you using any sharpening? This picture I Close the DLSS ⬆ And Framerate is lower This I open the DLSS ⬇ May be DLSS is beter 9900K | 4090 | 32Gb | Quest 3 | VD Link | RS FSSB R3L MKII"ULTRA" + RS F16 Side Grips GRH V2 | Winwing Orion Throttle Base II + TGRIP F16 | TM TPR | Winwing ICP | DIY AH-64 KU | Buick GL8 Seat | USB Cigarette Lighter | Cambridge Audio DACMagic 200M | Aura AST-2B-04 | Genelec 8010A
slughead Posted November 26, 2024 Posted November 26, 2024 140% render resolution with Godlike is too high to maintain 72fps even with a high-spec machine. You're not achieving it over the sea. So unless you are happy with the stuttering caused by not achieving the frame rate of your headset, I would dial down the PD. It's a compromise of framerate vs visual clarity. I run a PD of 1.1 with Godlike ona 4090 and i13900k @ 5.5GHz. I have ASW/Spacewarp set to auto, which activates only when my system cannot maintain 72fps. What do you have the "improved spotting dots" set to in settings > gameplay? Have you tried both settings? Slugmouse: a finger-mounted mouse button emulator for hand-tracked VR cockpit clicking. Available now! Slugmouse Demonstration Video
Qcumber Posted November 26, 2024 Posted November 26, 2024 The aim of these changes is first to see the best clarity of objects (as per op question), then to optimize for performance. DLSS is not a good option for clarity of objects. You need to find the right balance of SS, AA, refresh rate and game settings that works for you. 9800x3d - rtx5080 FE - 64Gb RAM 6000MHz - 2Tb NVME - Quest Pro (previous rift s and Pico 4). Afghanistan – Channel – Cold War Germany - Kola - Normandy 2 – Persian Gulf - Sinai - Syria - South Atlantic. BF-109 - FW-190 A8 - F4 - F5 - F14 - F16 - F86 - I16 - Mig 15 - Mig 21 - Mosquito - P47 - P51 - Spitfire.
beastfang Posted November 26, 2024 Author Posted November 26, 2024 29分钟前,Qcumber说: The aim of these changes is first to see the best clarity of objects (as per op question), then to optimize for performance. DLSS is not a good option for clarity of objects. You need to find the right balance of SS, AA, refresh rate and game settings that works for you. thanks bro It is better 1 9900K | 4090 | 32Gb | Quest 3 | VD Link | RS FSSB R3L MKII"ULTRA" + RS F16 Side Grips GRH V2 | Winwing Orion Throttle Base II + TGRIP F16 | TM TPR | Winwing ICP | DIY AH-64 KU | Buick GL8 Seat | USB Cigarette Lighter | Cambridge Audio DACMagic 200M | Aura AST-2B-04 | Genelec 8010A
beastfang Posted November 26, 2024 Author Posted November 26, 2024 7小时前,slughead说: What do you have the "improved spotting dots" set to in settings Where is this option? 9900K | 4090 | 32Gb | Quest 3 | VD Link | RS FSSB R3L MKII"ULTRA" + RS F16 Side Grips GRH V2 | Winwing Orion Throttle Base II + TGRIP F16 | TM TPR | Winwing ICP | DIY AH-64 KU | Buick GL8 Seat | USB Cigarette Lighter | Cambridge Audio DACMagic 200M | Aura AST-2B-04 | Genelec 8010A
slughead Posted November 26, 2024 Posted November 26, 2024 2 minutes ago, beastfang said: Where is this option? 7 hours ago, slughead said: settings > gameplay Slugmouse: a finger-mounted mouse button emulator for hand-tracked VR cockpit clicking. Available now! Slugmouse Demonstration Video
beastfang Posted November 26, 2024 Author Posted November 26, 2024 5分钟前,slughead说: find it it's open What's your suggestion? 9900K | 4090 | 32Gb | Quest 3 | VD Link | RS FSSB R3L MKII"ULTRA" + RS F16 Side Grips GRH V2 | Winwing Orion Throttle Base II + TGRIP F16 | TM TPR | Winwing ICP | DIY AH-64 KU | Buick GL8 Seat | USB Cigarette Lighter | Cambridge Audio DACMagic 200M | Aura AST-2B-04 | Genelec 8010A
slughead Posted November 26, 2024 Posted November 26, 2024 1 minute ago, beastfang said: find it it's open What's your suggestion? 7 hours ago, slughead said: Have you tried both settings? Slugmouse: a finger-mounted mouse button emulator for hand-tracked VR cockpit clicking. Available now! Slugmouse Demonstration Video
beastfang Posted November 26, 2024 Author Posted November 26, 2024 7分钟前,slughead说: Enthusiastic pilot, I know you really want to help me, thank you. Good night, I'm going to sleep 9900K | 4090 | 32Gb | Quest 3 | VD Link | RS FSSB R3L MKII"ULTRA" + RS F16 Side Grips GRH V2 | Winwing Orion Throttle Base II + TGRIP F16 | TM TPR | Winwing ICP | DIY AH-64 KU | Buick GL8 Seat | USB Cigarette Lighter | Cambridge Audio DACMagic 200M | Aura AST-2B-04 | Genelec 8010A
sleighzy Posted November 27, 2024 Posted November 27, 2024 11 hours ago, slughead said: Improved spotting dots, the ability to turn them off, is currently broken in DCS right now. Heaps of complaints around issues with the new spotting changes, and zero ability to opt out using that switch as it’s not working. AMD 7800x3D, 4080Super, 64Gb DDR5 RAM, 4Tb NVMe M.2, Quest 2
beastfang Posted November 27, 2024 Author Posted November 27, 2024 59分钟前,sleighzy说: Improved spotting dots, the ability to turn them off, is currently broken in DCS right now. Heaps of complaints around issues with the new spotting changes, and zero ability to opt out using that switch as it’s not working. Thanks bro Do you have some suggested settings? Not long ago,I can have a good vision within 25nm Now,the distance only 5-6 nm..... Sad Face........ 9900K | 4090 | 32Gb | Quest 3 | VD Link | RS FSSB R3L MKII"ULTRA" + RS F16 Side Grips GRH V2 | Winwing Orion Throttle Base II + TGRIP F16 | TM TPR | Winwing ICP | DIY AH-64 KU | Buick GL8 Seat | USB Cigarette Lighter | Cambridge Audio DACMagic 200M | Aura AST-2B-04 | Genelec 8010A
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