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Is there any way to enhance vision of aerial targets while using VR?VirtualDesktop.Android-20241104-151248.jpg

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How can a dog fight or fox 1 in such visual conditions?

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At that distance, TGP. Tomcat and later Phantom versions had a TV camera for this exact purpose, and on the Viper, TGP does that. VID is much easier if you can zoom in on your target.

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9小时前,slughead说:

Use your TGP. As far as I know, even RLP use it to identify aircraft visually.

 

4小时前,Dragon1-1说:

At that distance, TGP. Tomcat and later Phantom versions had a TV camera for this exact purpose, and on the Viper, TGP does that. VID is much easier if you can zoom in on your target.

I said fox1&dogfight,in that situation.

I think no body will use TGP in that situation to track your target

and so many immersive servers like 80s,they do not have F2  F10 

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I missed the part about dogfight as it was at the end under the photos. I can’t say that I’ve had a problem whilst dogfighting. I had a quick test with the new spotting dots and found them to be more realistic in that they’re not huge blobs anymore. I was still just about to make out the “dot” even without a TD box around it.

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2024/11/6 PM5点50分,slughead说:

I missed the part about dogfight as it was at the end under the photos. I can’t say that I’ve had a problem whilst dogfighting. I had a quick test with the new spotting dots and found them to be more realistic in that they’re not huge blobs anymore. I was still just about to make out the “dot” even without a TD box around it.

Hi,what VR equipment do you use?

I use Quest 3 , openXR mode , use VD Link

You can see my parameters in the screenshot

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yes,PD  1.1   is good for picture,but no way to enhance vision of aerial targets.  So sad

This means that VR players will not be able to engage in aerial combat.

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On 11/4/2024 at 7:30 AM, beastfang said:

Is there any way to enhance vision of aerial targets while using VR?VirtualDesktop.Android-20241104-151248.jpg

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How can a dog fight or fox 1 in such visual conditions?

You are really pushing the limits on your system. The decoding latency is very high. You want to keep it below 12 ms. Try using h264+ at 200. You could also reduce refresh rate to 72 Hz that would then allow you to increase the supersampling to 1.3 or higher. Then see how distant objects look. What AA are you using? 

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10小时前,Qcumber说:

You are really pushing the limits on your system. The decoding latency is very high. You want to keep it below 12 ms. Try using h264+ at 200. You could also reduce refresh rate to 72 Hz that would then allow you to increase the supersampling to 1.3 or higher. Then see how distant objects look. What AA are you using? 

I will try now,thanks

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10小时前,Qcumber说:

You are really pushing the limits on your system. The decoding latency is very high. You want to keep it below 12 ms. Try using h264+ at 200. You could also reduce refresh rate to 72 Hz that would then allow you to increase the supersampling to 1.3 or higher. Then see how distant objects look. What AA are you using? 

Thanks bro

IT IS HELPFUL

Although not as good as before,but it worked

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57 minutes ago, beastfang said:

Thanks bro

IT IS HELPFUL

Although not as good as before,but it worked

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Try pushing SS higher. Turn off any antialiasing. Are you using any sharpening? 

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4分钟前,Qcumber说:

Try pushing SS higher. Turn off any antialiasing. Are you using any sharpening? 

supersampling more higher?  I will Try now   and  trun off any antialiasing

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28分钟前,Qcumber说:

Try pushing SS higher. Turn off any antialiasing. Are you using any sharpening? 

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This picture I Close the DLSS ⬆  And Framerate is  lower

 

This I  open the DLSS ⬇  

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May be    DLSS  is   beter

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140% render resolution with Godlike is too high to maintain 72fps even with a high-spec machine. You're not achieving it over the sea. So unless you are happy with the stuttering caused by not achieving the frame rate of your headset, I would dial down the PD. It's a compromise of framerate vs visual clarity.

I run a PD of 1.1 with Godlike ona 4090 and i13900k @ 5.5GHz. I have ASW/Spacewarp set to auto, which activates only when my system cannot maintain 72fps.

What do you have the "improved spotting dots" set to in settings > gameplay? Have you tried both settings?

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The aim of these changes is first to see the best clarity of objects (as per op question), then to optimize for performance. DLSS is not a good option for clarity of objects. You need to find the right balance of SS, AA, refresh rate and game settings that works for you. 

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29分钟前,Qcumber说:

The aim of these changes is first to see the best clarity of objects (as per op question), then to optimize for performance. DLSS is not a good option for clarity of objects. You need to find the right balance of SS, AA, refresh rate and game settings that works for you. 

thanks bro

It is better

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7小时前,slughead说:

What do you have the "improved spotting dots" set to in settings

Where is this option?

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5分钟前,slughead说:

 

 

find it

it's open

What's your suggestion?

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7分钟前,slughead说:

 

 

Enthusiastic pilot, I know you really want to help me, thank you.
Good night, I'm going to sleep

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11 hours ago, slughead said:

 

 

Improved spotting dots, the ability to turn them off, is currently broken in DCS right now. Heaps of complaints around issues with the new spotting changes, and zero ability to opt out using that switch as it’s not working. 

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59分钟前,sleighzy说:

Improved spotting dots, the ability to turn them off, is currently broken in DCS right now. Heaps of complaints around issues with the new spotting changes, and zero ability to opt out using that switch as it’s not working. 

Thanks bro

Do you have some suggested settings?

Not long ago,I can have a good vision within 25nm

Now,the distance only 5-6 nm.....

Sad Face........😭

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