T-80 front armor needs looked at.

[Tom P]

Posted this on the Eagle Dynamics's discord with the track files and videos. The T-80's front armor is almost invincible against other tank rounds. I had 10 M1 Abrams go against it and they all lost. I have the track files but I'm pretty sure my account on this forum is restricted from me sharing anything. Side and rear armor are fine. Again... This is posted in your discord. 

Also T-72B3 destroyed 6 of the 10 Abrams, Again shots aimed at the front armor.

[SpecterDC13]

T80SIDEArmor.trkT80FRONTArmor.trk

I posted your tracks here for you.

Looking at the side profile shots first from two M1A2s the armor on the side of the T80 seems correct. 

nullYou can see in the night screenshot that I was able to find the round being ricochet off the front armor of the T-80. I have also provided the track.

In the daytime picture of the T-80 I have outlined the aim point that the Abrams is aiming at consistently. This is the area that the ricochets are coming from. 

This appears to be the expected behavior/expectation from the front armor of the T80.

 

In both Abrams night screenshots, you can see the round hit under the angled portion of the tank. That first shot on both tanks immediately destroyed them.

 

I don't think it is a problem with the front armor of the T-80 as it is performing like it should (since you can see the rounds ricochet) and ricochetting the rounds as proven. The problem would lie in the M1A2 armor as it is not deflecting any rounds despite the angle of the armor. 

 

 In the track file "M1A2 destroys T72B one shot" you can see one Abrams gets destroyed while the other one takes out the T72 one shot. Same goes for the track with the T72B3. 

When it comes to the T90, the T90 does take a hit but I could not find the ricochet round. In the track you can see it hit just under turret or slightly on the turret but doesn't do much to it.

The T90 was able to take out both Abrams with one shot. 

 

The side profile track is of course one shot as well.

 

Both side and front profiles were tested with the M1A2C SEP v3 and same thing with the armor. 

 

I will do more tests later to ensure the Abrams are using penetrating rounds. But as it stands right now, the Abrams cannot take more than one hit from the front from close range. 

I will run more tests as well to test distance and see if that plays a factor. I will also test out to see what RPGs do to the armor as well. I would imagine and hope the Abrams could take a standard RGP shot from both front and side without taking too much damage. I am also not sure how thick the armor is on the front of the Abrams, but from what I can find it should be able to take a somewhat of a beating. 

 

This puts the Abrams in a very difficult position in DCS as from what I have tested here so far appears to make the Abrams rather weak from all angles no matter what. Whereas the Russian tanks appear to have stronger front armor as expected.

T80 Front profile shots destroys two M1A2s - night time.trk M1A2 Front profile shots - nighttime.trk M1A2 destroys T72B one shot - nighttime.trk M1A2 destroys T72B3 one shot - nighttime.trk M1A2 vs T90 one shots - nighttime.trk M1A2 side profile - nighttime.trk M1A2C SEP v3 front profile - nighttime.trk M1A2C SEP v3 side profile - nighttime.trk