Gronank Posted January 14 Posted January 14 When using the ground radar, it's possible to enter a Fixed Target Track (FTT) by designating a point on the map radar display twice. According to chuck's, "The radar will then focus all its energy on the landmark/feature you just designated", which is good and all, but I don't see how this mode can be used since the designated point was already SPI from the first designation.. I was thinking that maybe the mode would provide precice range to allow the TPOD to be slewed beyond laser ranging distance, which would be very useful, but alas, this does not work.
Napillo Posted January 16 Posted January 16 I've used a GMTI track to hit targets with laser rockets, that definitely works. Now I could have used a TGP track to do it, but it's easier to just use the GMTI and there's also the risk that it'll get out of line of sight with the TGP and the laser won't actually be falling on the right thing. Either way, it does work. The laser probably wouldn't be strong enough to go the 21 miles or so anyway. It spreads over distance.
tekwoj Posted January 16 Posted January 16 16 hours ago, Napillo said: I've used a GMTI track to hit targets with laser rockets, that definitely works. Now I could have used a TGP track to do it, but it's easier to just use the GMTI and there's also the risk that it'll get out of line of sight with the TGP and the laser won't actually be falling on the right thing. Either way, it does work. The laser probably wouldn't be strong enough to go the 21 miles or so anyway. It spreads over distance. If it works then it's only because either TGP was slaving to radar anyway and automatically lasing or there's a bug. The TGP is not stabilized using laser, it's stabilized using radar. That's why it loses stabilization in the rear hemisphere (though probably it shouldn't within short range). 2
LastRifleRound Posted January 17 Posted January 17 On 1/14/2025 at 1:08 PM, Gronank said: When using the ground radar, it's possible to enter a Fixed Target Track (FTT) by designating a point on the map radar display twice. According to chuck's, "The radar will then focus all its energy on the landmark/feature you just designated", which is good and all, but I don't see how this mode can be used since the designated point was already SPI from the first designation.. I was thinking that maybe the mode would provide precice range to allow the TPOD to be slewed beyond laser ranging distance, which would be very useful, but alas, this does not work. That's because it isn't fully implemented for the Viper or the JF17. It is in the Hornet. I can see why, as the Viper docs don't really say what happens when you FTT other than it tracks a return. FTT looks for the point of greatest return in the cone and tracks it, which HOPEFULLY (but often isn't) is your target. For large buildings, ships, and other large return, isolated objects it can add precision as it's not relying on your interpretation of the radar imagery. However, the radar will lock the greatest return, regardless of whether or not it's your target. If you have the Hornet you can test this. Put several static objects relatively close to each other, slew the radar over them then SCS to initiate FTT. You'll see the lock doesn't necessarily pick your target. Often, you can keep re-initializing the FTT and will pick different targets each time. FTT really is typically used for ships, otherwise the AG radar is used more as cueing for sensors or eyes, particularly with the help of offsets. 3
Napillo Posted January 18 Posted January 18 On 1/16/2025 at 12:08 PM, tekwoj said: TGP was slaving to radar anyway it was, and I manually turned on the laser. Just saying that's how you can use it to do what you asked.
tekwoj Posted January 18 Posted January 18 11 hours ago, Napillo said: it was, and I manually turned on the laser. Just saying that's how you can use it to do what you asked. Not my question, but the question was about FTT, not GMTI/GMTT
Creampie Posted January 18 Posted January 18 On 1/15/2025 at 9:34 PM, Napillo said: I've used a GMTI track to hit targets with laser rockets, that definitely works. Now I could have used a TGP track to do it, but it's easier to just use the GMTI and there's also the risk that it'll get out of line of sight with the TGP and the laser won't actually be falling on the right thing. Either way, it does work. The laser probably wouldn't be strong enough to go the 21 miles or so anyway. It spreads over distance. Target locking & INS Area locking are 2 different things, The pod should not be able to maintain a solid lock beyond the 21nm, But it should be able to INS Area lock much further than it currently does without drifting. One thing I've always hated about the WMD7, Trying to slew around beyond 21 and it start drifting.....
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