fasterkf78 Posted January 28 Posted January 28 Hey, iam playing mission no.3 (defend dubai) and after takeoff off me and my wingman the remaining squadron devil 2 to devil 5 is not going to takeoff. They remain on the deck without leaving the parking position for the whole mission till my return after more than 60min. They all got the tasks via the F10 menu, is there anything missing from my side? Iam right that i do not have to plan their missions in the mission editor? Does anybody have had similar problems? Thanks in advance!
Sandman Simulations Posted January 28 Posted January 28 1 hour ago, fasterkf78 said: Hey, iam playing mission no.3 (defend dubai) and after takeoff off me and my wingman the remaining squadron devil 2 to devil 5 is not going to takeoff. They remain on the deck without leaving the parking position for the whole mission till my return after more than 60min. They all got the tasks via the F10 menu, is there anything missing from my side? Iam right that i do not have to plan their missions in the mission editor? Does anybody have had similar problems? Thanks in advance! Hi, Thank you for reporting. I'll investigate. All you need to do is to give them preplanned tasks. Before taxi director update your squadron mates took of before you but after the update they are waiting for you to go first. Do you have the taxi director enabled or disabled?
fasterkf78 Posted January 28 Author Posted January 28 vor 11 Minuten schrieb Sandman Simulations: Hi, Thank you for reporting. I'll investigate. All you need to do is to give them preplanned tasks. Before taxi director update your squadron mates took of before you but after the update they are waiting for you to go first. Do you have the taxi director enabled or disabled? Hi, the taxi director is enabled and in missions 1 and 2 the squadron follows me correctly.
fasterkf78 Posted January 28 Author Posted January 28 vor 18 Minuten schrieb fasterkf78: Hi, the taxi director is enabled and in missions 1 and 2 the squadron follows me correctly. As you may know, there is no squadron in mission 1. sorry!
Sandman Simulations Posted January 28 Posted January 28 (edited) 23 minutes ago, fasterkf78 said: Hi, the taxi director is enabled and in missions 1 and 2 the squadron follows me correctly. Thanks. I have tested it for three times now and for some reason wasn't able to replicate the problem. The first mission has just a wingman but what comes to squadron mates mission 2 should be similar with the rest of the missions. I really hope it has been a one time bug so I'm asking you to retest. If it still happens please save a track file and attach it here. They should taxi to cat immediately after you have launched. Edited January 28 by Sandman Simulations
fasterkf78 Posted January 28 Author Posted January 28 vor 4 Minuten schrieb Sandman Simulations: Thanks. I have tested it for three times now and for some reason wasn't able to replicate the problem. The first mission has just a wingman but what comes to squadron mates mission 2 should be similar with the rest of the missions. I really hope it has been a one time bug so I'm asking you to retest. If it still happens please save a track file and attach it here. They should taxi to cat immediately after you have launched. I tried it several times during the last days including a restart of the campaign. I will create a trackfile within the next 10 hours.
Sandman Simulations Posted January 28 Posted January 28 Just now, fasterkf78 said: I tried it several times during the last days including a restart of the campaign. I will create a trackfile within the next 10 hours. Thank you. Very weird. You don't need to fly a full mission. Just give them tasks, start up, launch and hold at waypoint one for couple of minutes to see are they going to do anything. Do you have the latest DCS update and do you use any unofficial mods? If someone else is having the same problem please report here.
fasterkf78 Posted January 28 Author Posted January 28 vor 11 Minuten schrieb Sandman Simulations: Thank you. Very weird. You don't need to fly a full mission. Just give them tasks, start up, launch and hold at waypoint one for couple of minutes to see are they going to do anything. Do you have the latest DCS update and do you use any unofficial mods? If someone else is having the same problem please report here. The latest update was auto installed on 20th january, all mods are official via steam (maps, f18, f14, campaingns). 1
fasterkf78 Posted January 28 Author Posted January 28 vor 2 Stunden schrieb Sandman Simulations: Thank you. Very weird. You don't need to fly a full mission. Just give them tasks, start up, launch and hold at waypoint one for couple of minutes to see are they going to do anything. Do you have the latest DCS update and do you use any unofficial mods? If someone else is having the same problem please report here. Next problem, the track data always gets about the maximum permitted file size of 50MB in this forum, smallest possible is 53MB after 1 or 2min of flight. Any ideas how to transfer it? Thank you so far for your immediate support.
Sandman Simulations Posted January 28 Posted January 28 17 minutes ago, fasterkf78 said: Next problem, the track data always gets about the maximum permitted file size of 50MB in this forum, smallest possible is 53MB after 1 or 2min of flight. Any ideas how to transfer it? Thank you so far for your immediate support. Of course Do you use tacview? If yes send me a file. In my tests devil 2 started to taxi to the cat just before I was launching. Did they move at all or did they stuck somehow while taxiing?
fasterkf78 Posted January 28 Author Posted January 28 vor einer Stunde schrieb Sandman Simulations: Of course Do you use tacview? If yes send me a file. In my tests devil 2 started to taxi to the cat just before I was launching. Did they move at all or did they stuck somehow while taxiing? They are not moving at all and remain complete in their parking positions. Just installed tacview now but still struggeling how to use.
fasterkf78 Posted January 28 Author Posted January 28 vor 12 Minuten schrieb fasterkf78: They are not moving at all and remain complete in their parking positions. Just installed tacview now but still struggeling how to use. recording now...
fasterkf78 Posted January 28 Author Posted January 28 vor einer Stunde schrieb Sandman Simulations: Of course Do you use tacview? If yes send me a file. In my tests devil 2 started to taxi to the cat just before I was launching. Did they move at all or did they stuck somehow while taxiing? Tacview file attached. Tacview-20250128-211253-DCS-STAGE 3 85 perf.zip.acmi 1
Sandman Simulations Posted January 28 Posted January 28 59 minutes ago, fasterkf78 said: Tacview file attached. Tacview-20250128-211253-DCS-STAGE 3 85 perf.zip.acmi 2.73 MB · 1 download Thank you for the record. I tried several times to replicate your flight as well as possible and they are still launching normally. I wouldn't be surprised at all that some change in the taxi director code would cause this but I just can't find out why it's working for me and not for you. I'll continue investigating. If you haven't tried yet you could try to skip the mission. This should move you to stage 4 with the same ground war situation, just about 6 hours later. Please report do you encounter the same problem then. 1
fasterkf78 Posted January 28 Author Posted January 28 vor einer Stunde schrieb Sandman Simulations: Thank you for the record. I tried several times to replicate your flight as well as possible and they are still launching normally. I wouldn't be surprised at all that some change in the taxi director code would cause this but I just can't find out why it's working for me and not for you. I'll continue investigating. If you haven't tried yet you could try to skip the mission. This should move you to stage 4 with the same ground war situation, just about 6 hours later. Please report do you encounter the same problem then. Same problem in the next mission (taking back the harbour).
Sandman Simulations Posted January 29 Posted January 29 8 hours ago, fasterkf78 said: Same problem in the next mission (taking back the harbour). This is very embarrassing as I still haven't been able to replicate this issue. Not in a public version or in the development version. Every time they launch after I have. You said that in the first dynamic mission (Mission 2) it worked fine but not in missions after that. It's very weird as scripting for squadron mates is identical in all dynamic missions. How about if you now return to mission 2? Does it still work or has something happened after you played it? Did you play the mission 2 before or after the latest update? The taxi sequence is optimized for the director at the moment and might be bugged with director disabled. What happens if you disable the taxi director. Do your mates move then?
fasterkf78 Posted January 29 Author Posted January 29 vor 5 Stunden schrieb Sandman Simulations: This is very embarrassing as I still haven't been able to replicate this issue. Not in a public version or in the development version. Every time they launch after I have. You said that in the first dynamic mission (Mission 2) it worked fine but not in missions after that. It's very weird as scripting for squadron mates is identical in all dynamic missions. How about if you now return to mission 2? Does it still work or has something happened after you played it? Did you play the mission 2 before or after the latest update? The taxi sequence is optimized for the director at the moment and might be bugged with director disabled. What happens if you disable the taxi director. Do your mates move then? After hours of testing different things i managed to have the squadron in mission 3 one time with me but cant repeat that till now. What i did today: - tested mission 2: no problem - tested mission 3 with disabled taxidirector (options-special-supercarrier-last checkbox disabled): squadron has followed me! - repeated mission 3 several times with same or different taxi settings: squadron did not follow me - repeated mission on 2 (only a few minutes till squadron taxi success) and tried mission 3 again: squadron did not follow me As i remember right, the some days ago on the first time i tried mission 3 the squadron did follow me. Due to an unsuccessful mission i decided to repeat the mission and that was the moment where the trouble has began. So no success after a few hous.
Sandman Simulations Posted January 29 Posted January 29 43 minutes ago, fasterkf78 said: After hours of testing different things i managed to have the squadron in mission 3 one time with me but cant repeat that till now. What i did today: - tested mission 2: no problem - tested mission 3 with disabled taxidirector (options-special-supercarrier-last checkbox disabled): squadron has followed me! - repeated mission 3 several times with same or different taxi settings: squadron did not follow me - repeated mission on 2 (only a few minutes till squadron taxi success) and tried mission 3 again: squadron did not follow me As i remember right, the some days ago on the first time i tried mission 3 the squadron did follow me. Due to an unsuccessful mission i decided to repeat the mission and that was the moment where the trouble has began. So no success after a few hous. Thank you very much for your comprehensive investigation. If I understood correctly mission 3 worked once with taxi director disabled but with the same setting didn't work again? Unfortunately this sounds something I have no power to fix as with tools given for campaign maker it is not possible to cause (or fix) this kind of behavior. And as this is not obviously happening to everyone it might be some conflict between DCS settings and carrier taxi logic. This is also something that is quite difficult to report to ED as I can't reproduce the issue. I just noticed that there is a new bug if taxi director is disabled. If the player taxies to cat 1 or 2 DEVIL 4 might start up too soon and collide with DEVIL 3. It also seems that ED has already changed something in taxi director code in development version as wingman now starts taxiing same time with the player. I'm working with a patch to fix the collision problem and together with changes made by ED there is a small change to fix this no taxi at all -issue too. Even if those changes has nothing to do with your issue there quite often is some heavy-duty sorcery included and things that are not ment to change will change.
fasterkf78 Posted January 29 Author Posted January 29 vor einer Stunde schrieb Sandman Simulations: Thank you very much for your comprehensive investigation. If I understood correctly mission 3 worked once with taxi director disabled but with the same setting didn't work again? Unfortunately this sounds something I have no power to fix as with tools given for campaign maker it is not possible to cause (or fix) this kind of behavior. And as this is not obviously happening to everyone it might be some conflict between DCS settings and carrier taxi logic. This is also something that is quite difficult to report to ED as I can't reproduce the issue. I just noticed that there is a new bug if taxi director is disabled. If the player taxies to cat 1 or 2 DEVIL 4 might start up too soon and collide with DEVIL 3. It also seems that ED has already changed something in taxi director code in development version as wingman now starts taxiing same time with the player. I'm working with a patch to fix the collision problem and together with changes made by ED there is a small change to fix this no taxi at all -issue too. Even if those changes has nothing to do with your issue there quite often is some heavy-duty sorcery included and things that are not ment to change will change. Thanks for your effords. For me it looks a bit as the repeating of mission 3 causes the problem. However i will pause this campaign till the next updates, fingers crossed that i can continue this great campaign. Best campaign-setup so far
Sandman Simulations Posted January 29 Posted January 29 5 minutes ago, fasterkf78 said: Thanks for your effords. For me it looks a bit as the repeating of mission 3 causes the problem. However i will pause this campaign till the next updates, fingers crossed that i can continue this great campaign. Best campaign-setup so far Thank you for your feedback and patience. I really hope too that this will be solved one way or other
Wiggo Posted February 10 Posted February 10 (edited) On 1/28/2025 at 8:49 PM, Sandman Simulations said: Of course Do you use tacview? If yes send me a file. In my tests devil 2 started to taxi to the cat just before I was launching. Did they move at all or did they stuck somehow while taxiing? I have also had problems with AI stucking in the deck (though not in msn one, nor that i would had tried to launch first). So do I understand correctly that the campaing should still work atm, if I just launch first? (taxi to cat first etc..) The deck crew can even be on..? Edited February 10 by Wiggo
Sandman Simulations Posted February 10 Posted February 10 2 hours ago, Wiggo said: I have also had problems with AI stucking in the deck (though not in msn one, nor that i would had tried to launch first). So do I understand correctly that the campaing should still work atm, if I just launch first? (taxi to cat first etc..) The deck crew can even be on..? Hi, Just tested and working normally with and without the crew. You just need to taxi first. 1
Wiggo Posted February 12 Posted February 12 On 2/10/2025 at 11:12 PM, Sandman Simulations said: Hi, Just tested and working normally with and without the crew. You just need to taxi first. Yeah, actually just found out that in latest DCS update log there is separate note for Flamign Sunrise campaign -> DCS: F/A-18C Flaming Sunrise Campaign by Sandman Simulations All missions – taxi sequence adjusted to prevent collisions if taxi director disabled
Solution fasterkf78 Posted February 21 Author Solution Posted February 21 Am 29.1.2025 um 16:23 schrieb Sandman Simulations: Thank you for your feedback and patience. I really hope too that this will be solved one way or other Hey! I just tested the effect of the newly released update to my problem and i must say that it looks as it has solved the problem. Devils 2-5 are moving again. I have tested it three times and they are always moving to the cat and are not stuck anymore. Back in business now i can defend Dubai! Have a nice weekend!
Sandman Simulations Posted February 22 Posted February 22 9 hours ago, fasterkf78 said: Hey! I just tested the effect of the newly released update to my problem and i must say that it looks as it has solved the problem. Devils 2-5 are moving again. I have tested it three times and they are always moving to the cat and are not stuck anymore. Back in business now i can defend Dubai! Have a nice weekend! Great to hear. Have a nice flight
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