MAXsenna Posted April 3 Posted April 3 @Rick50 You're saying western leaders want to reduce the population with 90%?How on earth will capitalism survive then? I can predict one thing though. Even if you started it, the thread will be cleaned, closed or both. Sent from my SM-A536B using Tapatalk
MAXsenna Posted April 3 Posted April 3 Well, they are higher up than all our elected officials, above our prime ministers and presidents, at least the people pushing for this. And they have huge numbers of like-minded people. You point out that people in power care about staying in power and getting rich. Well, these people are SO rich that they don't need to collect another dollar anymore. They just need to prevent others from taking their money and power away. And the giant populations of poor and working class are potentially the ones who could take that money/power away. Thus want us gone. So they make up an excuse for the masses to no longer exist, and a growing number of people decide "hmm, yes we need to reduce!" and join the effort, not realising the true motivation behind. Old farts in the UK are being listened to about any topic? Doesn't seem that way to me at all. I have no clue what's going on in Canada, while you might come over and touch some European grass. It's for sure not happening here. Sent from my SM-A536B using Tapatalk
Rick50 Posted April 3 Author Posted April 3 (edited) Look, I hope this concept is wrong. That some of us have been lead to a silly notion. I'm just saying, keep an open mind about this as you watch news stories in the future, and remember past events. And I'm done on this sub-topic. Edited April 3 by Rick50
Dragon1-1 Posted April 3 Posted April 3 1 minute ago, Rick50 said: Well, these people are SO rich that they don't need to collect another dollar anymore. That is not how it works. The people you're talking about are greedy. There's no such thing as "don't need to collect another dollar anymore" for them. If one of them got all the money in the universe, he'd still want more. That's the sort of people we're talking about. There's no secret, malevolent cabal running the world, just a bunch of shysters who got lucky with the stock market lottery, and with ruthlessly exploiting people more intellectually capable (but more scrupulous and introverted) than them. 2 minutes ago, Rick50 said: And the giant populations of poor and working class are potentially the ones who could take that money/power away. They're also the ones they have power over in first place. They're the ones who make their money have value (we're on fiat currencies, remember?). With no people, power and money cease to exist. Fun fact: many of those ultra-rich are actually pronatalists (more people, bigger labor supply, labor gets cheaper, more money). Your conclusion makes no sense. You probably arrived at it because your sources are poorly chosen. The media, particularly news stories, are designed to make you read them and keep reading others, because it makes them money. If you are not trained to separate the real information from attempts to manipulate you, your conclusions will be wrong. So maybe stop doing your own research, if you don't have the training, scientific rigor and access to journals required to do this properly. In truth, the super-rich are hostages to poor masses, and they pour incredible amount of resources into convincing them that it isn't so. The only ones pushing for rapid reduction of humanity are the bleeding hearts who had humanized Earth so much they think it's "suffering" because of humanity's exploitation of it. While such eco-extremists are gaining traction in some circles, they're actually opposed to the elites (although to be fair, they're opposed to most people). 1
Rick50 Posted April 3 Author Posted April 3 (edited) 1 hour ago, MAXsenna said: I can predict one thing though. Even if you started it, the thread will be cleaned, closed or both. Sent from my SM-A536B using Tapatalk you know, you are right, I'll give it 30 minutes and then delete my discussion on this sub-topic, as it's wildly off topic. Screenshot it if you like, but I don't want to poison the rest of the discussion, risk the whole thread being deleted. If anyone wants to debate further, or ask questions, challenge me on it, I'm game. But I won't do so on ED's forums or this site's PM's. Instead, PM me with an email address, and we could continue by private email. 30 minutes have elapsed, so I have edited my previous posts "Edited: well off topic" Edited April 3 by Rick50
MAXsenna Posted April 3 Posted April 3 1 hour ago, Rick50 said: you know, you are right, I'll give it 30 minutes and then delete my discussion on this sub-topic, as it's wildly off topic. Screenshot it if you like, but I don't want to poison the rest of the discussion, risk the whole thread being deleted. Nah, no worries.
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