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How about a last call sale for those who missed out on a module? I would've bought the Mig-19 if I knew it wouldn't be available. 

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35 minutes ago, Nascar said:

How about a last call sale for those who missed out on a module? I would've bought the Mig-19 if I knew it wouldn't be available.

Hardly seems fair as none of the sale price ATM goes to Razbam or the coders/artists who made the module(s).

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They could make a deal, though. Positive waves.

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That's exactly the opposite of what RAZABM seems to want. They took down the modules, not ED (well, ED physically did it, but at RAZBAM's request). If they wanted to make a deal, they would have done that already.

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7 hours ago, Dragon1-1 said:

That's exactly the opposite of what RAZABM seems to want. They took down the modules, not ED (well, ED physically did it, but at RAZBAM's request). If they wanted to make a deal, they would have done that already.

Please don't speculate with nonsense, thanks.

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I'm not. ED clearly stated RAZBAM asked them to take down the modules. They also clearly stated (after people were complaining they were still selling RAZBAM modules) they were obliged to keep selling them until RAZBAM asked them to stop. 

There's no conspiracy, only Ron Zambrano posting reckless public statements about a private court case. If you did some research, it would have become fairly obvious. 

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On 5/10/2025 at 6:45 PM, Dragon1-1 said:

If you did some research, it would have become fairly obvious.

Being one of the subcontractors he just might be privy to a bit more info.

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5 hours ago, draconus said:

Being one of the subcontractors he just might be privy to a bit more info.

Might or might not (he's a subcontractor after all, not an employee), but he didn't seem to get the memo as to what @BIGNEWY's post above had just restated. Nothing I wrote is speculation, much less nonsense. Between the timing and Zambrano's statements, it's hard to conclude that either "positive waves" are nowhere near their list or priorities, or they're so incompetent at PR that their attempts at creating them are actually generating the exact opposite. Or both (Ron in particular seems a likely candidate for a "I suck at PR and I don't care" attitude).

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On 5/9/2025 at 3:52 PM, Ramsay said:

Hardly seems fair as none of the sale price ATM goes to Razbam or the coders/artists who made the module(s).

RB needs their own store, like HB did

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9 hours ago, Pipe said:

 

As far as I know they were not selling DCS modules from there, or were they?

 I emailed them about a week ago and asked that very question...In typical fashion, they (he) never responded...They can go down in flames for all I care...🖕

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14 hours ago, Pipe said:

As far as I know they were not selling DCS modules from there, or were they?

They were selling DCS modules there. It was also the main hub to get the manuals.

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IMO it doesn't seem to be a very organized website.

And I'm not bagging on RB, I love their modules. I think they make some of the best, if not the best, modules in the game.

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Far from it. Their modules look nice, but feature-wise, they're behind the curve. Most notably, they're the only developer who decided to make a frontline two-seater without making an AI crewmember an integral part of their plan. This approach works for trainers, but that's because the second seat in those is for the instructor, whose main job is to teach the guy in front to fly the plane. In the Mudhen, the backseater is there precisely because you want one guy flying and the other handling the weapons. The WSO is an integral part of any real Mudhen crew. And despite that glaring omission, it's still better than the poor MiG-19, still unfinished in several areas, or the constantly under repair Harrier.

If you want quality, look no further than Heatblur. They might be overdoing it with their dolled-up UI (really wish they stopped wasting time on bells and whistles), but the planes themselves are second to none. The AI backseater might not be the brightest bulb, but he's genuinely useful.

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6 hours ago, Dragon1-1 said:

If you want quality, look no further than Heatblur.

Right, where's that quality in my Tomcat? Major gamebreaking bugs left for years, crawling development and maintenance since new cash cows showed up on the horizon, unrealistic implementations... Both ED, RAZABAM and HB create top notch modules - none is caring them well.

About WSO - it was planned in later development and yes, it's needed and welcome. Contrary to the Tomcat though you don't actually require one to fly and fight, so players rarely miss him.

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No point in buying RAZBAM modules, if they are not maintained. They will probably stop working at some point. So it is actuall good, that they are not for sale any more. And because this came from RAZBAM, I guess even they/he doesn't believe in settlement any more.

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9 hours ago, draconus said:

Right, where's that quality in my Tomcat?

Last time you were asked to elaborate on that, you produced a list of minor issues (no "major gamebreaking bugs" last time I flew it...), unfinished features and things that weren't even on HB. Let's face it, you're not exactly a trustworthy arbiter of quality, because your definition of "gamebreaking bug" seems to be "can't perform OBS BIT as per NATOPS".

None of those modules are perfect. That doesn't mean HB doesn't have a better track record than RAZBAM at actually making their modules work like they should. Just look at the state the Harrier and MiG-19 are in, then at Tomcat and Viggen, and tell me which is more complete. It's true that HB should spend more time fixing bugs and less time embedding Chromium in DCS, but RAZBAM are much worse in that regard.

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4 hours ago, Dragon1-1 said:

Last time you were asked to elaborate on that, you produced a list of minor issues (no "major gamebreaking bugs" last time I flew it...), unfinished features and things that weren't even on HB.

You confused bugs list with unrealistic features. And tell me if inability to see LANTIRN or TCS as a pilot is not game breaking.

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Ah, that. It's not exactly "left for years", seeing as it seems to have appeared since the MT build came out, and not everyone gets it. TBF, this looks like a difficult bug to fix (hard to diagnose something that doesn't happen on your test build...). I should also note that it's a single bug, and the only one real gamebreaker, at least if you're not one of those for whom it goes away after mission reload.

 

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5 hours ago, Dragon1-1 said:

I should also note that it's a single bug, and the only one real gamebreaker, at least if you're not one of those for whom it goes away after mission reload.

Not gonna go back and forth on whose bug is uglier. There are more, not only module but also their missions and campaigns. The point was both ED, RAZBAM and HB can do very good modules but I cringe and react that it's somehow HB considered "quality" developer.

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I consider the bar for "quality developer" to be somewhere between RAZBAM and ED. HB surpasses both when it comes to accuracy (one thing RAZBAM is known to play fast and loose with), visuals and features. All of them have bugs, sometimes bad, and a lot of those that are merely annoying, but again, compare the MiG-19 and the Harrier to any ED module and you'll see the difference.

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