kmaultsby Posted Tuesday at 01:37 AM Posted Tuesday at 01:37 AM All need advice on a good starting point to set up the ViperAce Stick for the F-16. I am all over the place with formation flying and AA refueling. Advice on the Axis tuning.
rob10 Posted Tuesday at 02:01 AM Posted Tuesday at 02:01 AM IMO, leave them un-tuned and symmetrical. Yes, maybe it's hard initially, but you'll figure out how to tame it quickly. And once you have tamed it, you have symmetrical controls which likely makes things easier down the road. But that's just my opinion. If you want to mess with it, in SP you can go in and out of the bindings and play with it at will, and that's likely best way to tweak it. Try to only tweak one axis at a time so you can see what it does. I would start by adding a little curvature to flatten the centre of the response. Then increase if you still don't like it. Again personal opinion, but I would avoid deadzone if at all possible as that tends to make things jerky. To tame things down while AARing, try gripping your stick close to the base. That will tend to dampen your movements for while you're doing that while still giving you full responsiveness the rest of the time.
Dos Posted Tuesday at 02:06 PM Posted Tuesday at 02:06 PM I recently revisited my setting since I could not AAR. Althought I did ask Chatgpt and for my winwing Super Libre on a F-18 which is how I noticed the viper needs a negative curve. I had a higher curve setting prior to asking chat and it really did not work well for me with AAR, but I lowered it to 6 from 20 and now connect everytime I try. IMO you should follow rob10 advice, leave as is unless the viper is your module and it is a must to go negative on curve - idk. Oh yeah I read if that stick has FFB then you do not use these setting. Cheers Below I asked chat for your flight stick setting enjoy: What would be the best axis tuning setting in DCS for my winwing viperace? ChatGPT said: For your WinWing Viperace HOTAS in DCS, achieving optimal axis tuning is essential for precise control, especially when flying aircraft like the F-16 Viper. Given the force-sensing nature of the Viperace, specific adjustments can enhance your flying experience.reddit.com+4reddit.com+4reddit.com+4reddit.com Recommended Axis Tuning Settings for the F-16 Viper 1. Deadzone: Pitch & Roll Axes: Set the deadzone to 0%. This eliminates any unintended input near the center, providing a more responsive feel. However, some users have found that setting a minimal deadzone (e.g., 1%) can help with autopilot functionality. reddit.com+2reddit.com+2reddit.com+2reddit.comreddit.com 2. Curvature: Pitch & Roll Axes: Apply a negative curve between -4 to -15. This adjustment compensates for the Viper's hardcoded force-sensing curve, offering smoother and more precise control, particularly in the center zone. reddit.com+4reddit.com+4reddit.com+4 3. Saturation X & Y: Pitch & Roll Axes: Set the saturation X & Y to 100%. This ensures the full range of your stick movement is utilized, maintaining consistent control throughout the stick's travel.reddit.comforum.dcs.world+3reddit.com+3reddit.com+3 4. Throttle Axis Configuration: Throttle: Configure the throttle as a slider in DCS. Set the "axis begin" value to match the physical idle position of your throttle. For instance, if your throttle reaches idle at 22%, set the axis begin to 22%. This setup ensures that the throttle behaves linearly and accurately reflects your physical movements. reddit.com+1reddit.com+1 Additional Tips Force-Sensing Stick Settings: DCS now allows users to disable the Viper's built-in force-sensing and deadzone features. It's recommended to turn off these settings in the Special Options menu to prevent conflicts with your hardware's capabilities. reddit.com+1reddit.com+1reddit.com Testing and Adjustment: After applying these settings, spend time in a test mission to fine-tune your controls. Adjust the curvature and deadzone as needed to match your flying style and preferences.reddit.com+1reddit.com+1 By implementing these settings, you should experience improved control and responsiveness in the F-16 Viper within DCS. Remember, personal preference plays a significant role, so feel free to adjust these values to suit your comfort and flying style.reddit.com+1reddit.com+1 *And you could ask specifics: In DCS, Saturation X and Saturation Y serve different purposes: Saturation X: Controls the input range (from your physical device) that gets mapped to the in-game axis range. Saturation Y: Controls the output range (how much of the input is sent to the game). Recommended Setting for Saturation X with WinWing Viperace: Set Saturation X to 100% Why 100% for Saturation X? Since the WinWing Viperace is a force-sensing stick with no traditional movement range, limiting the X input range (i.e., anything under 100%) would artificially shorten the usable input area. That can: Reduce fidelity Create unexpected nonlinear behavior Lead to early "peaking" in control response By keeping it at 100%, you're telling DCS to read the full range of input from the stick exactly as it is — which is important for maintaining the precision intended by the Viperace. Summary for Pitch & Roll Axis: Setting Value Deadzone 0–1 Saturation X 100% Saturation Y 100% Curvature -5 to -15 (test to taste) Let me know if you’re flying anything besides the F-16 and want axis tuning suggestions tailored for that!
Aapje Posted Wednesday at 12:41 PM Posted Wednesday at 12:41 PM We have a Winwing subforum. @NineLine Please move this thread.
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