Owl Posted Sunday at 12:28 PM Posted Sunday at 12:28 PM I bought the Winwing Orion2 HOTAS Max set for about a month ago. To be honest, I’m not that impressed with the Throttle stiction it self. The joystick is fantastic, and I like all the buttons on the throttle quadrant. I know there are other posts and solutions (for some), but I think they are a little bit old (2021-2022), so I hoped Winwing or other users had found a solution. But it doesn’t looks likely. The first thing I did was to order the Nyogel 767A. Sadly the German company I ordered it from, did have summer holiday, so I had to wait for about 14 days. It is always nice to look forward to something good, so my expectations was high, when DHL came with the package. But as you know, then expectations are high, it is easy to be disappointed. And it is what I did. I dismantled the throttle, cleaned all the old grease away, and layered a little amount of Nyogel 767A grease, and assembled it all again. But I didn’t feel a big difference from the original Winwing grease to the Nyogel very expensive grease. The difference wasn’t the new grease money worth. I dismantled the throttle again. This time I cleaned it up again, and layered a bigger layer of grease. Grease all over the rubber wheel, so no dry contact points between the rubber wheel and the plastic. Assembled it again and tested it. Now it was even worse, and absolutely not a solution I could live with. 3rd time I dismantled the throttle again and this time I cleaned all the grease off again. Cleaned the rubber wheel and plastic very thoroughly, so absolutely no grease back left. Assembled it all again, and this is the best result. It is absolutely not great, but I can live with it for a while, but I will hope Winwing find a better solution. What is your experiences and maybe a better solution?
Despayre Posted Sunday at 01:44 PM Posted Sunday at 01:44 PM You do know there's an adjustment hole for each throttle, just past the mid point, right? A small allen key can adjust the throttle from very stiff, to "falls forward or backward on its own if not straight up". Yours doesn't do this? 1 I'm not updating this anymore. It's safe to assume I have all the stuff, and the stuff for the stuff too.
Owl Posted Sunday at 03:36 PM Author Posted Sunday at 03:36 PM 1 hour ago, Despayre said: You do know there's an adjustment hole for each throttle, just past the mid point, right? A small allen key can adjust the throttle from very stiff, to "falls forward or backward on its own if not straight up". Yours doesn't do this? Yes I do!
Despayre Posted Sunday at 06:27 PM Posted Sunday at 06:27 PM 2 hours ago, Owl said: Yes I do! And you can't dial it in to exactly where you want it? Or am I missing something here? I'm not updating this anymore. It's safe to assume I have all the stuff, and the stuff for the stuff too.
Owl Posted Sunday at 07:39 PM Author Posted Sunday at 07:39 PM 1 hour ago, Despayre said: And you can't dial it in to exactly where you want it? Or am I missing something here? As many other users of the Winwing Orion2 throttle, the friction is either too strong, or too less, so in the ends, the weight off the throttle heads is mowing it to the very end (no or full power). Especially the right stick, as it is the most heavy. And another thing, and the most frustration one is then you haven’t touched the throttle in a few minutes maybe, it feels like it sit tight, and you have to use extra power to move it again.
Arecibo Posted Sunday at 07:55 PM Posted Sunday at 07:55 PM I think it might just need 'bedding in' with usage. I have two bases that are smooth as butter, although tbh I didn't really notice 'stiction' as such when I bought them. It took a while to find just the right amount of friction with the allen key though and it needed retightening over time. Give it time, it'll be fine. In Training: Phantom F-4E / In the Hanger: F-14, F-16 Maps: Nevada / Kola / Syria / Afghanistan Hardware: Winwing Orion2 HOTAS Metal Warthog / Winwing Orion2 ViperAce EX Throttle / Virpil R1-Falcon Rudders Head Tracking: AI Track + OpenTrack
Owl Posted Sunday at 09:00 PM Author Posted Sunday at 09:00 PM 58 minutes ago, Arecibo said: I think it might just need 'bedding in' with usage. I have two bases that are smooth as butter, although tbh I didn't really notice 'stiction' as such when I bought them. It took a while to find just the right amount of friction with the allen key though and it needed retightening over time. Give it time, it'll be fine. But did you have the problem then you bought it, and it is been better, or do you never have the problem? Some don’t have the problem, and some does. Especially on the Orion2, because it is a rubber wheel and a plastic bushing going in to each other. my post is if someone have found a solution? just to mention a few:
Arecibo Posted Monday at 07:37 AM Posted Monday at 07:37 AM (edited) 10 hours ago, Owl said: But did you have the problem then you bought it, and it is been better, or do you never have the problem? I never have the problem. For me it was just a case of finding the right Allen key tension (using really small increments). Like I say, it needs the odd tighten every now and then (rarely), but on the whole I just don't think about it. I have the Strike Eagle and Viper grips, so different weights of handle and they're both fine. There's no way I would have started ripping the thing apart to make it smoother. Edited Monday at 07:42 AM by Arecibo In Training: Phantom F-4E / In the Hanger: F-14, F-16 Maps: Nevada / Kola / Syria / Afghanistan Hardware: Winwing Orion2 HOTAS Metal Warthog / Winwing Orion2 ViperAce EX Throttle / Virpil R1-Falcon Rudders Head Tracking: AI Track + OpenTrack
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