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I have about 40 hours in the F-16 and joined a squadron for training and running missions together. It's been fun. The various systems are complex but even with the minimal time so far I'm learning fast. 

Like many, air to air refueling has been a problem. Look, I get it, it will come with time and practice--much more. I've read this over and over and really understand that. BUT, my stick, at center, is way too oversensitive. I'm going to open it up today and tighten up the axis screws just a bit, but I'm also wondering if there are custom axis tuning curves for pitch/roll that can help with movement near center. If I understand the tuning correctly, I can set up a gradient with less sensitivity with micro movements at center and then expand back to a linear setting to ensure the aircraft is still manueverable farther from center.

I just don't understand the curves enough to start playing with that. I've seen several examples with both positive and negative values but need to understand what they mean in terms of stick control.

Any examples with an explantion I could try? Thanks!

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@BluesRocket

What's your stick settings under the special settings for the Viper? I've turned those off with zero deadzones for both axis. (We didn't have those settings before as ED forced us to use a virtual force sensing stick, even if you had a regular sprung one). 

Apart from this, I fly the Viper with an entry level stick, the TM T16K, with no curves or deadzones whatsoever.

AAR will click one day for you, and it will feel like some great, (while stupid 😜), accomplishment, and you will be amazed of how easy it actually is. But, it must click! Just like swimming or riding a bike. Can you formation fly? If not, learn that first. Greatest advice I received. In the Viper, as a fly by wire airframes, (that trims itself and stuff), it will do the most work for you, as long as you are a little steady. Throttle management is much more important! 

Also! When you open the refueling lid, the, the computer in the airframe will change the input sensitivity levels, (landing levels?), which will be different from when you're in ordinary flight. Hence why I don't like using curves in the Viper.

Now, everyone else's input and personal advices are incoming, and welcome! Pick those that works best for you! 😉

Cheers! 

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vor 1 Stunde schrieb BluesRocket:

I have about 40 hours in the F-16 and joined a squadron for training and running missions together. It's been fun. The various systems are complex but even with the minimal time so far I'm learning fast. 

Like many, air to air refueling has been a problem. Look, I get it, it will come with time and practice--much more. I've read this over and over and really understand that. BUT, my stick, at center, is way too oversensitive. I'm going to open it up today and tighten up the axis screws just a bit, but I'm also wondering if there are custom axis tuning curves for pitch/roll that can help with movement near center. If I understand the tuning correctly, I can set up a gradient with less sensitivity with micro movements at center and then expand back to a linear setting to ensure the aircraft is still manueverable farther from center.

I just don't understand the curves enough to start playing with that. I've seen several examples with both positive and negative values but need to understand what they mean in terms of stick control.

Any examples with an explantion I could try? Thanks!

Did you already try to adjust the axis curvature of your stick? I guess this will fix your issue. I use a VKB Gunfighter Ultimate 4 stick and set the axis tuning for F-16 roll and pitch to 20% (see picture). I have also added 5% center dead zone to avoid triggering when autopilot is activated.

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