Kneeboard. SPACE and ENTER keys cause the page to jump to one of the tabs/bookmarks

[Hippo]

Not sure if it's every a/c, I've only tested with the F-18.  When I have the kneeboard open, and after I've clicked on one of the tabs with the mouse, if I subsequently have a page in view that is not one marked by the tabs/bookmarks, then I am taken to one that is marked by a tab (I think the last one I selected) if I press the SPACE or ENTER keys (which I have assigned to my HOTAS using its software).

Is this behaviour intentional?  It is causing me an issue because I have those keys assigned to other functions and my kneeboard pages are switched when I use those other functions (i.e. there is a bindings clash).

Sorry if not a bug.  I have checked all the bindings for the kneeboard and don't see why using the SPACE or ENTER keys should cause this behaviour as they don't appear to be assigned to any kneeboard function.

Edited 1 hour ago by Hippo
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[Czar]

Intentional or not, try to set your hotas buttons to something else other than 'space' and 'enter'. (quality of life for you instead of waiting change to the sim)
Were those for launching weapons and radar contact designation?

If you set up those commands with generic hotas factory buttons you'll have more bindings to play with instead of matching the keyboard commands already assigned so these may turn into a non-issue for you.

[Hippo]

22 minutes ago, Czar said:

Intentional or not, try to set your hotas buttons to something else other than 'space' and 'enter'. (quality of life for you instead of waiting change to the sim)
Were those for launching weapons and radar contact designation?

If you set up those commands with generic hotas factory buttons you'll have more bindings to play with instead of matching the keyboard commands already assigned so these may turn into a non-issue for you.

Thank you for letting me know that it appears we disagree on how we prefer to set up or HOTASes.  Which is fine as there is no "right" way.  Different strokes, live and let live, etc.

Let me, however, try to explain the issue I am reporting in a different way, so you can perhaps appreciate that there is a tangible problem, even if it doesn't affect you.  If the default keyboard binding for the F-18 TDC - Depress function is ENT, which IIRC it is, then the ENT key should NOT also cause the kneeboard pages to switch.  This kneeboard functionality also appears to be hard coded, which is probably a bad idea in and of itselt.

Edited 2 hours ago by Hippo

[Czar]

3 minutes ago, Hippo said:

Thank you for letting me know that it appears we disagree on how we prefer to set up or HOTASes.  Which is fine as there is no "right" way.  Different strokes, live and let live, etc.

Let me, however, try to explain the issue I am reporting in a different way, so you can perhaps appreciate that there is a tangible problem, even if it doesn't affect you.  If the default keyboard binding for the F-18 TDC - Depress function is ENT, which IIRC it is, then the ENT key should NOT also cause the kneeboard pages to switch.  This kneeboard functionality also appears to be hard coded, which is probably a bad idea in and of itselt.

No bindings in the general section of controls? I'll boot up my DCS to check.

Yes, there is no 'right' way to bind anything. My controls schemes throughout the years were often among the extremes to be able to experience DCS with limited peripherals.  I understand.

[Czar]

The issue can happen after you interact with kneeboard with the mouse.
'Enter' and 'Space' keys make the page jump to the "bookmarked" sections as OP mentioned. It seems hardcoded as there is no bindings to change it.

Best of luck, I hope the issue is resolved for you.

Edited 2 hours ago by Czar

[Hippo]

22 minutes ago, Czar said:

The issue can happen after you interact with kneeboard with the mouse.
'Enter' and 'Space' keys make the page jump to the "bookmarked" sections as OP mentioned.

Best of luck, I hope the issue is resolved for you.

Thanks.

Also, "after you interact with kneeboard with the mouse" is rather important to mention.  Have updated OP accordingly.  Thanks again.

I could very easily work around the issue, but I think it must've been introduced relatively recently (I've been away from DCS for six months) as I've never encountered it before.  And I do believe it is an issue, and that it needs resolving.

Edited 2 hours ago by Hippo

[Czar]

9 minutes ago, Hippo said:

And I do believe it is an issue, and that it needs resolving.

I do too, but that's one issue amongst many and the patching is not quick with several layers of priority as mentioned in the forum.

Don't take my comments as dismissive. I always look for user side work around especially for something customizable as bindings, as the patches and fixes take long to come.

Happy flying.