Torn - With 2 Days Left

[Maddaawg]

So I am on the trial period of 14 days with 2 left.

I have dialed in my settings as best I vmcan on a 3080 Ti. Comparing it to my Quest 3, the Q3 is a little better. The lenses are clear with no screen door effect and the colors are also better.

I am assuming the PCS can get much better if I had a 5090, but so would the Q3. Maybe not as much, but $1800 plus 2 grad for a 5090 is a lot for only a little better.

Also, even though I have upgraded my CPU, I still show CPU bound.

How much better will the PCS be vs the Q3 with a 5090?

[Peedee]

1 hour ago, Maddaawg said:

So I am on the trial period of 14 days with 2 left.

I have dialed in my settings as best I vmcan on a 3080 Ti. Comparing it to my Quest 3, the Q3 is a little better. The lenses are clear with no screen door effect and the colors are also better.

I am assuming the PCS can get much better if I had a 5090, but so would the Q3. Maybe not as much, but $1800 plus 2 grad for a 5090 is a lot for only a little better.

Also, even though I have upgraded my CPU, I still show CPU bound.

How much better will the PCS be vs the Q3 with a 5090?

Comparing the Quest 3 and the Crystal Super on a system with a 9800X3D and a RTX 5090 is … silly I think.   I have a 9950X3D (which in games I understand is comparable to 9800X3D) and a RTX 5090 - and I have both the Quest 3 and Crystal Super. The difference in is huge. 

I understand that Pimax has a pretty low requirement for the Super on their website. Personally I think that is misleading. I personally wouldn’t run it on a system without a RTX 5090 and a good CPU. Maybe a 4090. I have a system with a 4090 too (see signature), but for me that is unsatisfying…

You CAN run it on a lower end system, and obviously you do. But I think it is a waste of money because you are missing out on what the Crystal Super has to offer, why it even exists- and you might as well spend your money elsewhere. 

I understand your concern, because first - the Crystal Super is super expensive- and paying for a RTX 5090 is very very expensive too. Is it worth it? For me - yes.  But I am an older dude, Flight sims has been my hobby since 1983, and the investment didn’t bother me as much. 15 years ago I could not have afforded it. 
 

Yes, you can super sample the Quest 3 more with a RTX 5090 than with your 3080. It will run a lot better of course than with your present graphics card.
 

But still - physically the Crystal Super has 327% more pixels than the Quest 3 to show…. But with your 3080 you don’t get the experience that is intended with the Crystal Super. 
 

What should you do? Don’t know. It’s a lot of money. Maybe enjoy what you have, or try to get a “cheaper” second hand RTX 4090 and enjoy your Quest 3 even better. The Quest 3 gets quite an uplift going from a 3080 to a 4090. Especially since the rest of your system is good. 

 

[Maddaawg]

Well last night I saw the ticker had counted down to 22 hours and so it's probably about 12 hours now.

I'll take your @Peedee word for it and fork out the 2 grand for a 5090. Im really hoping I'm wowed. 

I'll be giving up more than cash to switch. The Q3 has better lenses, is much more comfortable to wear, has better tracking, and does have hand tracking. With the Slugmouse from @slughead Im able to flip switches in my virtual cockpit and that to me is nearly as valuable as the visuals. I have all kinds of buttons on my WinWing gear and i just dont use it with the Q3 and its hand tracking. But, visuals are king, so in switching, I'll be hoping Pimax gets the hand tracking module out soon or that a Leap Motion will work.

[Peedee]

1 hour ago, Maddaawg said:

Well last night I saw the ticker had counted down to 22 hours and so it's probably about 12 hours now.

I'll take your @Peedee word for it and fork out the 2 grand for a 5090. Im really hoping I'm wowed. 

I'll be giving up more than cash to switch. The Q3 has better lenses, is much more comfortable to wear, has better tracking, and does have hand tracking. With the Slugmouse from @slughead Im able to flip switches in my virtual cockpit and that to me is nearly as valuable as the visuals. I have all kinds of buttons on my WinWing gear and i just dont use it with the Q3 and its hand tracking. But, visuals are king, so in switching, I'll be hoping Pimax gets the hand tracking module out soon or that a Leap Motion will work.

That 5090 will do you good in lots of other use cases to. Hope you will be happy - but to make sure you will be happy in DCS with Crystal Super - follow the guide in this video from Tallymouse. Personally I have been into VR since 2017, but this video really helped me with the Super and DCS: