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Support for full livery/pilot/cockpit mod in user folder, without breaking pure textures.


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Having custom skins for a squad is quite tedious and when fully implemented, every player even has to make changes to texture files that will break 'pure textures' so you can't play on multiplayer servers.

It should not just change how you see yourself in the cockpit, but also how others (which have the same mod) see you, without changing core DCS files.

Update: I have been able to package the livery and pilot clothing as a mod in the user folder. But regarding the pilot clothing for external views, there is no option to change it without breaking the texture check.

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Edited by tribbin

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What’s the point of using custom liveries online? Nobody else will be able to see them as it’s unlikely they will have those installed. My guess is Pure Textures are enforced to prevent cheating. 

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e.g. In our squad we have all installed this skin.

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The livery can be installed in your user-folder and will be available as an additional livery, therefore not breaking pure skins and servers decide for themselves what they allow and don't allow, so on Enigma's/Heatblur's and other servers we can use it.

For the MiG-29 Fulcrum It is even possible to change the pilot (e.g. change helmet) as an extra cockpit option (besides English/Russian/...) without breaking pure skins, but that will not be visible from outside the cockpit-view, e.g. when making recordings.

So there are more skinnable aspects to the game in various directories with different rules. That should be much easier.

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Posted

Custom liveries are very cool. But the only way for other players to see them is to have them installed. That’s not too likely. If there was a way for players to submit these to the devs and then have those released as official packs, that would work. But I don’t see that happening. 

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16 hours ago, SharpeXB said:

Custom liveries are very cool. But the only way for other players to see them is to have them installed. That’s not too likely.

For us it is just for our squad members and our screenshots and video recordings. Other people will see the default grey liveries.

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3 hours ago, tribbin said:

For us it is just for our squad members and our screenshots and video recordings. Other people will see the default grey liveries.

https://www.youtube.com/@PhantomReapingFagotSquad

Again my guess is that pure textures are enforced to prevent cheating. So any custom textures will have to deal with that restriction. 

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19 minutes ago, SharpeXB said:

Again my guess is that pure textures are enforced to prevent cheating. So any custom textures will have to deal with that restriction. 

I mean, we can make our livery neon purple and not trigger pure textures. We can change the cockpit and pilot too, but not for outside perspective.

The issue I made is about the inconsistencies in how you can and can not mod stuff.

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2 minutes ago, tribbin said:

I mean, we can make our livery neon purple and not trigger pure textures. We can change the cockpit and pilot too, but not for outside perspective.

The issue I made is about the inconsistencies in how you can and can not mod stuff.

Yeah I don’t really know why this restriction is there but it must be for a reason. I won’t speculate on how that could be used for cheating. 

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Posted
3 hours ago, SharpeXB said:

Yeah I don’t really know why this restriction is there but it must be for a reason. I won’t speculate on how that could be used for cheating. 

Apparently it is a MiG-29 Fulcrum specific problem, as I compared it to the Tomcat and that does allow me to change the pilot/helmet.
 

 

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