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Bug report — AH-64 Apache FCR elevation drift in Copilot Gunner (CPG) A/A mode

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Summary

When operating the Fire Control Radar (FCR) from the Copilot Gunner (CPG) seat in air-to-air mode, FCR elevation begins to slowly drift downward to its minimum immediately after releasing the Right Hand Grip (RHG) cursor. Re-adjusting elevation and releasing RHG causes the same automatic downward drift, rendering the A/A mode unusable.

This happens without any input from any controller (even when all controllers are disconnected and unmapped). I tested it with other player and it happens the same way for both of us.

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Module

AH-64 Apache

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Component

FCR elevation control from Copilot Gunner (CPG) using Right Hand Grip (RHG) cursor

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Steps to reproduce

1. Spawn in AH-64 Apache and occupy or switch to the Copilot Gunner (CPG) position, in multicrew configuration (with another player)

2. Select Fire Control Radar and set radar to air-to-air (A/A) mode.

3. Use the Right Hand Grip (RHG) cursor to change FCR elevation to any value, then release RHG.

4. Observe FCR elevation slowly drifting downward to its minimum.

5. Re-adjust elevation with RHG, release RHG, and observe the automatic downward drift repeating.

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Expected result

FCR elevation remains stable after releasing RHG cursor and maintains the manually set elevation in A/A mode.

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Actual result

FCR elevation continuously and slowly drifts to negative values until it reaches the possible minimum after RHG is released, repeating every time elevation is adjusted and RHG is released.

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Additional observations / test matrix

- The bug is not caused by controller input signals; it occurs with all controllers disconnected.

- The issue occurs in multiplayer when the CPG is a human player.

- The problem is independent of server and map; it occurs on all servers and maps tested.

- The issue affects both Player 1 and Player 2 CPG positions equally.

- A/A mode is the only mode that uses exclusively manual elevation setting; this bug prevents practical use of the radar in that mode.

- When you switch to TADS and turn on LINK, FCR stops to drift downwards.

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Impact

The bug prevents reliable manual elevation control of the FCR in air-to-air mode from the CPG seat, making the A/A radar mode effectively unusable in gameplay and training.

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Logs / attachments

Game engine Logs attached. Video attached. Reproducible without any input devices connected.

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Suggested priority

High — blocks core A/A functionality for CPG.

4YA_SYR_PVE_V2.93[03_JUN_BKN]-20251004-213326.trk

4YA_SYR_PVE_V2.93[03_JUN_BKN]-20251004-213326.trk.zip

AH 64 FCR Elevation Bug.mov

Edited by Jaro
Posted (edited)

@Jaro Is the attachment a zip file? Logs and videos will only get you so far. You should add a short track and the devs will probably be able to see what's going on in their debugger. 

Cheers! 

Edited by MAXsenna
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