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Hey guys, I notice that when flying the beast in training and missions I pretty much have got the hang of it but at somepoint throughout the flight I get these strange habbits where the BS wants to do what it wants to do no matter what input I give it. it may yaw in 360's in a hover and I cant seem to stop it or when flying in a straight heading and I want to bank and it wont budge or only slowly! the only way I can get it to listen is to hit RESET TRIM and then ofcourse it pitches up and I have to start trimming it all over again. It happens in all AP modes with or without FD engaged. any sugestions or tips that could help me on this? Thanks guys....

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Sounds like your trimmer hangs up due to your controls not being fully centered after trimming.

 

Trimmer function (for non-Force-Feedback):

1 - Press and hold

2 - Conduct maneuver

3 - Find stable attitude

4 - Release trim

5 - Simulator ignores stick and rudder movements until all (including rudder/joystick Z axis) are centered.

(You can obviously also use the tap-trim method, same #5 still applies.)

 

If your stick is wobbly you may have to increase your deadzones in the axis tuning.

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Hollywoody,

 

ditto what EtheralN said, plus:

 

Press RCtrl+Enter to see a real-time display of your virtual inputs.

 

Things to watch for:

- After trimming, are the cyclic inputs where you think they are?

- Trimmer trims your rudder pedal positions as well. Are the rudder inputs where you think they are?

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Yeah, it should be noted that the Cyborg Evo sticks, for example, has acceptable precision in the X and Y axes, but the Z axis (twist) is absolutely horrible. I've experimented with it a bit occassionally and setting it to physical neutral can still have it "stick" at sending half deflection to the computer - meaning that in the case of DCS:BS the trimmer will still be waiting for neutral inputs while you think you have neutral inputs.

 

Thankfully, I use "proper" pedals as well, so that specific issue is academic for myself, but those that use twist-sticks should look into that.

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Good evening HOLLYWOODY , does not forget, to remove the function force feed back in the game (it is put office has installation) is in the file “Producer.cfg” (with NOTEPAD++) which is in the root of the games: Eagle dynamics=>ka50=>Config, to replace “ForceFeedbackEnabled = true; ” by “ForceFeedbackEnabled = false; " and save the file

 

especially if you has a joystick which not this function (Saitek X52 or Trushtmaster Cougar) :joystick:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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First, appreciate that these machines are inherently unstable - but you have already noticed;-). I have experienced the same thing as you. Here are some things to consider in addition to the excellent advice you have already received:

 

(1) Develop a careful discipline of making all control inputs gradual and smooth. This avoids instability under most circumstances.

(2) You can easily get caught in your own vortex at low speeds or when setting up a hover. You can escape the vortex with some cyclic forward and increasing the collective.

(3) If you get into a situation of pitching it is often better to take hands entirely off the controls for a few seconds rather than trying to compensate. The machine will often settle down by itself.

(4) If you get into a rotating instability where the BS starts spinning on its axis you may have to adjust rudder repeatedly in the opposite direction, using Trim each time. Two or three such adjustments may be necessary.

(5) Instability can be a real problem if you are hit by ground fire and the BS is damaged. This can happen without your knowing it. Once systems are compromised you may have to control stability manually and it's very tough.

(6) During some extreme maneuvers, like forcing a large change in position/attitude/altitude during auto-hover, the auto-pilot may dis-engage. Regain stability manually and then reset the AP. If you need to change position during auto-hover, best to turn it off temporarily while doing so.

 

Best wishes,

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