not able to see my server in the mp list? help me

[sage0030]

:cry: ok guys I bought two ip's for this purpose, I have two machines, the machine im hosting on his not behind any firewall all ports are open, still not able to see this server in the list for some reason, do I have to do anything else to get it to show up in the list, and yes I have internet selected in the server menu, even looked in the network.cfg and public says true dont know if that does anything,

[EtherealN]

Forward port 10308 to the server on the router, both on TCP and UDP.

[sage0030]

Forward port 10308 to the server on the router, both on TCP and UDP.

 

 

im not behind a router or anything like that. im direct into a cm,

[Panzertard]

What is cm?

No local firewalls? Have you configured the firewall to allow 10308 on your server?

Please try to describe your network configuration a bit better - it's hard to help if we need to guess. :)

[sage0030]

What is cm?

No local firewalls? Have you configured the firewall to allow 10308 on your server?

Please try to describe your network configuration a bit better - it's hard to help if we need to guess. :)

 

 

 

I have no firewall heh. its directly to a cm, I have tried turning on the firewall and forwarding port that you said still only shows up on the lan tab, i normaly had it set as DMZ host when hosting a server = all ports open,

[EtherealN]

The question was: what is "a cm". ;)

[sage0030]

The question was: what is "a cm". ;)

 

 

oh im sorry cable modem, the strange thing is I have seen a couple people join my server, but I still cant see it from my other machine that has a seperate cd key that I bought for this, forgive me have not had all my cofee this morning, lol

[sage0030]

but I should be able to see my server from another machine right? if im hosting on another computer and looking at the list from my other machine it will only show up on lan not internet, thats really odd to me, :pilotfly: I have tried opening all ports even setting the hosting machine to DMZ host all ports open what else could I try to do?

[EtherealN]

Ah, roger. Have you verified that your cable modem does not have router functionality?

 

The fact that people appear to be joining would seem to indicate that it does show up - but I expect the time when it shows up depends on when the Master Server updates it's lists and at which interval your own computer interrogates the MS. So it may just be a matter of time.

 

Could you give a basic outline of your network to see if there are any other possible causes? For example, mine is like this:

 

1 - Router (192.168.0.1)

2 - Switch - branches to one computer room and #3

3 - Switch (192.168.1.1) - branches to one wired computer and 3 wirelessly connected computers

 

In my case I would have to ensure the forwards operate properly on all routers.

 

Layout details for your network might hold the secret - for example, is the server machine also acting gateway for your other computer?

[sage0030]

Ah, roger. Have you verified that your cable modem does not have router functionality?

 

The fact that people appear to be joining would seem to indicate that it does show up - but I expect the time when it shows up depends on when the Master Server updates it's lists and at which interval your own computer interrogates the MS. So it may just be a matter of time.

 

Could you give a basic outline of your network to see if there are any other possible causes? For example, mine is like this:

 

1 - Router (192.168.0.1)

2 - Switch - branches to one computer room and #3

3 - Switch (192.168.1.1) - branches to one wired computer and 3 wirelessly connected computers

 

In my case I would have to ensure the forwards operate properly on all routers.

 

Layout details for your network might hold the secret - for example, is the server machine also acting gateway for your other computer?

 

 

yes sir it does but on the machine that is hosting I had that machine set to DMZ host the ip is somthing like 92.9.9.## its not local ip its not 192.## was wondering if I had to do anything special to get it public because I had all ports open, this is mode I have tried on the hosting machine, im sure its somthing I have to do on this end though, I know its not the simulator thats causing this, all im using is cable modem/router combo box no switches or anything like that. could be somthing like that, I have in the past hosted servers on (other simulators) like this and had no problem getting out to the public, when its DMZ its usally no problem, Just realized this I posted in the wrong forums, I am using FC2.0 hope that does not make a difference because they are very simular engine heh. but I am using FC2.0 if that makes more of a difference,

 

 

 

Allow all applications (DMZplus mode) – Set the selected computer in DMZplus mode. All inbound traffic, except traffic which has been specifically assigned to another computer using the “Allow individual applications” feature, will automatically be directed to this computer. The DMZplus-enabled computer is less secure because all unassigned firewall ports are opened for that computer.

Edited April 24, 2010 by sage0030

[Panzertard]

The only thing you need to allow in - and to the particular IP for the server is 10308 TCP+UDP.

You could try to add 10307 TCP/UDP to the list - in a few odd cases I've seen traffic from my own server on that port - not sure when/why it happened.

Now since you have 2 IP's for you cablemodem, it is important to define the server as a server, and the client as a regular client.

Allow inbound to the server, and outbound for clients / servers.

 

Note: You may not be able to use your own client and go out to the internet, find your server and reach back in again (by connecting to it). But thats okai - you can find your own server on the LAN.

but you should be able to use your Client PC to see it listed.

 

If it is such as you say - you have two separate computers, both without firewall and both with different public IP's - then it should work straight out of the box.

 

So it must be something on your router / cable modem config I guess.

Only screenshots and similar things can help us understand which options you have there. So that would be the next step :)

 

 

And lastly - sorry to go a bit offtopic - but I need to say this:

I would strongly recommend that you protected yourself by NAT'ing (client network such as 10.x.x.x or 192.168.x.x) - as well as putting the server either on the same segment or a separate DMZ.

Plus properly firewalled. It's hard to keep a server alive more than a few days if it isn't protected. :)

[sage0030]

there has to be a reason why this is not hosting correctly, I will get my 30 bucks back if this does not work, only reason why I bought the game twice. :helpsmilie: ahh this is very frustrating,, I am using xp 64 version if that means anything, I know about networking, its all open, I would gladly get it protected with a firewall if I could get it running in the first place, could it just not visible to my other machine and to the rest of the public? lol im going to call my isp ask them if thats possible somthing could be blocking it,

Edited April 24, 2010 by sage0030

[Panzertard]

there has to be a reason why this is not hosting correctly, I will get my 30 bucks back if this does not work, only reason why I bought the game twice. :helpsmilie:

Yes, there is a reason - config - somewhere.

Or maybe even poor firmware/software for a router and such.

[sage0030]

Yes, there is a reason - config - somewhere.

Or maybe even poor firmware/software for a router and such.

 

 

 

im not using a router. heh. well it is a cable modem and router combo but that function is disabled, im starting to think that maybe the public can see my server, but only I cant on my other machine because im on the network possibly, because I had somone join it lol. :music_whistling: its really odd, I can only see my server from the other machine on the network selection, but people join my serveR???? ill check if my firmware verison is up to date,

Edited April 24, 2010 by sage0030

[Panzertard]

Did you manage to read my post#11 in this thread?

Maybe if you can provide some screenshots from your router - we might be able to understand what to tweak for you.

[sage0030]

Did you manage to read my post#11 in this thread?

Maybe if you can provide some screenshots from your router - we might be able to understand what to tweak for you.

ok ill see if I can figure out how to post shots lol.

[EtherealN]

Click go advanced at the bottom, then click the paperclip icon to attach screens.

[sage0030]

ok I think I have these attached. if you want me to take some more shots let me know, I do have windstream DSL,

New Bitmap Image.zip

New Bitmap Image (3).zip

New Bitmap Image (2).zip

Edited April 24, 2010 by sage0030

[Panzertard]

Ah, okai - you do have a client network for 192.168.x.x

Both your PC's can use the 192.168.x.x range internally.

Now you need to note down the internal address of the server, something like 192.168.1.x

Then you need to define a "service / host" where you can specify the server-ip + the ports 10308 TCP/UDP for the server - and name the service something like "FC2-DCS server".

This may be enough to allow it for inbound traffic.

 

Optionally you may have to add such a rule yourself, where you pick the "FC2-DCS server" rule and say Inbound, Allow.

 

Would be nice if you could find a page where you can define such services / hosts - and take a image of that as well.

(The other images didnt cover that).

[sage0030]

Ah, okai - you do have a client network for 192.168.x.x

Both your PC's can use the 192.168.x.x range internally.

Now you need to note down the internal address of the server, something like 192.168.1.x

Then you need to define a "service / host" where you can specify the server-ip + the ports 10308 TCP/UDP for the server - and name the service something like "FC2-DCS server".

This may be enough to allow it for inbound traffic.

 

Optionally you may have to add such a rule yourself, where you pick the "FC2-DCS server" rule and say Inbound, Allow.

 

Would be nice if you could find a page where you can define such services / hosts - and take a image of that as well.

(The other images didnt cover that).

the thing is the internal address for the server is the same. im not using 192 ip for the server.

 

 

do you mean opening ports? I took another screen tell me if that is what it is, I tried adding port forward rule.

New Bitmap Image.zip

[Panzertard]

Yes, there, it's defined. Good.

But you see - I think the whole setup for your router expects you to use 192.168.x.x range.

Thats what port-forwarding / dmz / nat is all about.

So when you use public IP's for your server - those rules may not have much effect.

 

So in the screenshot where you had "private IP adress" and "Public IP adress" is the screen where you make a "mapping" between the internal adresses and which IP on the outside it should use.

 

So normally you would add a "device" for your Client PC - and another one for your Server - and map the internal -> external adresses.

Then you can add the rules you want to apply, FC2 or All for that sake.

[Boberro]

I remember similar accident. I haven't been able to find servers but example my MSN communicator and "normal" internet worked well. Problem was my internet provider - something broke there - next day all came back to normal.

[sage0030]

:joystick::joystick:ok guys after alot of testing, this is really wierd, but I only ran one machine while hosting, and I had people join and they said they could see my server in the list obviously or they could not join I guess, but I cant see it on my other computer lol, my only question is there a way to make your server visible in other country's or regions or anything like that?

 

:pilotfly::pilotfly::joystick::pilotfly::joystick::cry::pilotfly::cry::music_whistling::book::pilotfly::joystick::D seems like when I try to run the other machine with FC2 but keep in mind there seperate cd keys I am using I can run them but for some reason knowone can see the server while I have both machines on what is really wierd, but its understandable, I played for ours lastnight online with a couple people on my server was great loved it, with only one machine on no problem,

Edited April 25, 2010 by sage0030

[Panzertard]

Thats why I suggest you try to untilize your router to the fully - using private network for the inside, using translation and port forwarding - it's designed to solve a problem like this.

It takes a bit of learning to get there - but I'm confident you can do it, bud :)

 

I think you can even do all this with just one *public* IP - you may not need two. You just use the default IP the router is already using.

 

Let's say you set up IP for the PC's:

- Gaming Client on 192.168.1.100

- FC2 Server on 192.168.1.200

 

Normally you would create a application definition (for the server), let's call it "FC2".

FC2 application settings would be:

- 10308 TCP/UDP

- Forward to "Server" 192.168.1.200

Then add a rule that allows "Incoming" to "Server", application "FC2".

 

The key here is the "forward" - and it's bound to a "inbound" rule only.

Any incoming traffic on that port will be redirected to the server - and not your gaming rig.

Thats what we want.

 

Your gaming rig however - should also be able to use FC2 elsewhere as long as you are allowing anything outgoing. It shouldn't need a specific setting for FC2.

This is because that traffic - even if it wants to go to the same port - it is outgoing.

And because it want to try to go to another IP than your server using that port.

 

I hope this made any sense to you :)

[EtherealN]

my only question is there a way to make your server visible in other country's or regions or anything like that?

 

There is no restrictions on which countries can see your server. As long as your server speaks to the lobby server, everyone should be able to see it no matter where on the planet they are.