missing units in FC2

[raolguio]

Does anyone knows if the "dog ear" unit was remove from FC2?? I can't find it in the mission editor. it is supposed to work along with the strela -10 9A35 unit. Furthermore, I think the "snow drift" radar is also missing, but I'm not sure.

[EtherealN]

Manual page 218:

 

PU-13 Ranzir = Dog Ear

BUK 9S18M1 = Snow Drift

 

Dog Ear and Snow Drift are NATO reporting names, not the actual names of the radar units.

[Renato71]

I hate those NATO names. They are results of someones inability to learn correct information in the first place. If people can learn US and other original designations, why are Russian designations such a strain for a brain? I mean, why does "dog ear" mean? Nothing, while PU-13 hides the same meaning as AN/APG or alike... ts-ts..

[EtherealN]

The point isn't for "Dog Ear" to mean anything. It's about "Dog Ear" being quicker to say on radio (and less likely to be confused or garbled) than saying "Pee Uh One Three Ranzir". This is the same as "Fox 3" - it doesn't mean anything, but it's quicker and less likely to be confused than saying "Launching A Ei Emm One Two Zero". Also makes these reporting names more international - since all NATO pilots can train the pronounciations in a standardized manner rather than have an American AWACS go "the hell you sayin'?" to a german that's saying "Pe Ou Eins Drei Ranzir".

[jpm1]

yeah , and seems that depending on their category names have to begin by a specific letter which then let few place for intelligent names Blackjack for bomber , Hokum for helicopter , Ranzir for radar , Foxbat fighter , Flanker ...

 

edit : i have no idea how my post got there , maybe it's me , moderation : it's an error can you please move this post to http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=53491&highlight=dog+ear

 

edit 2 : @ moderation : thanks

Edited May 6, 2010 by jpm1

[raolguio]

Thanks for answering so quick.

[Renato71]

All NATO codenames came from ignorance, not for ease to say it over radio.

As for the missiles example, it derived from slang. And why would anyone NOT say "amraam"?

How are they reporting on Patroit radar? Tall Mall? Long Bong? Deep Beep? Toot Moot?

:D

[Brit_Radar_Dude]

All NATO codenames came from ignorance, not for ease to say it over radio.

 

No, they were designed to be easy to remember names for the NATO military (from many different countries) to use to identify enemy weapons / aircraft, etc. A soldier tired, cold, scared, short of sleep, etc, etc wants things as easy as possible to remember and to be able to report.

I'm a civilian myself, but I did work in the defence industry for many years and was always interested in what the "other side" had. So for the last 30 years I've been able to identify a Spoon Rest, a Bar Lock or indeed a Dog Ear.

 

 

 

 

As for the missiles example, it derived from slang. And why would anyone NOT say "amraam"?

How are they reporting on Patriot radar? Tall Mall? Long Bong? Deep Beep? Toot Moot?

:D

 

Why would NATO need to make up reporting names for their OWN stuff?

 

The following conversation is pretty unlikely.......

"I need more ammo for my tank."

"What sort is it?"

"I can't remember."

 

The point of the reporting names is to report things you've seen. "I've just seen a Backfire fly over me, you might want to shoot it down", or "I've just found a Scud site, suggest you come drop a bomb on it". They don't need to say that about their own planes or their own missiles.