SU25T how not get SAMed in campaign?

[oho]

Can you give me some tipps, so that I don't get killed in every mission in the FC2 - campaign for the SU25T.

Do you fly high, or low, low speed or high speed?

What is the best approach in a high-threat area like the campaign?

Always have ECM on, always dispatch flare and chaff?

I don't actually hear the RWR, until I get hit, is that because ECM is on?

Do you have some advice for a ex-heli-pilot who knows the area :smilewink:?

[zakobi]

Well... Try always stay above 3km, as that is outside MANOAD/AAA range.

If there are enemy fighters in the area, wait for friendlies to take them out.

 

Leave ecm off as otherwise oyu are easier to spot. But always have the IR-ECM on!!

In areas with unknown manpads (Note: IR threads) use flares prematurely.

Known threads on the ground should to attacked with the same. Stay out of range!

Radar installations should the sead deal with. Only go against them if you know you can take them out.

[nomdeplume]

If you don't know what killed you, use the replay. Or the event log at the end of the mission. If your RWR isn't being activated, then either it's an IR missile which you won't get warning for, or you happened to be at an angle to the attacker where your RWR doesn't receive signals.

[TAIPAN_]

Well... Try always stay above 3km, as that is outside MANOAD/AAA range.

If there are enemy fighters in the area, wait for friendlies to take them out.

 

Leave ecm off as otherwise oyu are easier to spot. But always have the IR-ECM on!!

In areas with unknown manpads (Note: IR threads) use flares prematurely.

Known threads on the ground should to attacked with the same. Stay out of range!

Radar installations should the sead deal with. Only go against them if you know you can take them out.

 

I agree with Zakobi, never go below 3km altitude. The su-25t is a standoff weapons platform, albeit with a laser required for most guidance.

IRCM always on, and I don't bother to take ECM I take air to air weapons just in case and they are light and low drag.

 

I've completed 6 missions in GOW now, and had to trial and error the first one until I realised what a dangerous environment Georgia really is in this war.

 

My formula is like this:

-Use mission planner to customise loadout to standoff weapons only, my favourite is R60 + LLTV pod for target spotting + vikhrs + kh-25ml for 2 long range shots, inside pylons are empty for weight saving.

-Mission planner set your wingman to carry Fantasmagoria + kh-25mpu + kh-25ml and no vikhrs. He can hit long range SAMs for you and 25-ml is a long range weapon to minimise his chance of killing himself!

-Ingress at 6000m from the OCEAN side, there are no hidden defences in the ocean :)

-Wingman will begin spotting targets

-Attack from 1km beyond maximum altitude using LALT+w to authorise launch (altitude makes this additional range ok)

-Use half flaps and brakes to keep you from getting too low while you wait

-After hit with ONE weapon only, brakes off, turn off back over the ocean and after a few km turn back and repeat. NEVER try to release 2 weapons, with the laser requirement to hold you are risking your life.

 

It works well, just don't get impatient and get too close. You should never get hit by AAA, stingers, strelas with this tactic. Anything long range will come up on your radar warning and you can keep outside it's range and ask your wingman to attack air defences he will get it first with his SEAD weaponry, give him 58s if you like and that's nice long range if there are known long long range threats.

 

The only thing I haven't said yet, is that this formula gets boring and takes a LONG time to complete a mission, especially if you are used to the ka-50 unleashing all your weaponry and finishing a mission in under an hour.

 

So, in that case I go back to the su-25, and do low-sam threat missions with bombing runs and rocket runs, alot of fun ;)

[oho]

thanks, will try that. Do you know a low threat campaign or missions for the SU25T that you can recomend?

Edited June 16, 2010 by oho

[TAIPAN_]

Not many missions like that, it's realistic to be less threats but mission makers love SAMs :) You can edit the su-25 campaign called revanche and use the T instead. Still threats but it's easier as it assumes manouverability is the advantage instead of standoff range.