Reverse Waypoints?

[LukeFF]

Did some searching but couldn't find anything about this:

 

Can the PVI-800 be programmed so that it cycles through waypoints in reverse order?

[Frederf]

Nae. It only goes 1->2, 2->3, ..., through 5->6.

[LukeFF]

Bummer. :( Thanks!

[Martillo1]

I remember programming the waypoints flow in reverse order (or whatever order you want).

 

From the manual:

 

1. Changing WP Sequence in Flight When you wish to change the WP sequence, you can perform the following procedure:
    
   
2. Disengage ROUTE mode by setting the “МАРШРУТ-СНИЖЕНИЕ” (ROUTE - DESCENT) switch on the collective to the neutral position.
    
   
3. Turn off the “ППМ” (Waypoints) push-light on the PVI-800 Navigation Control panel. This light and the WP indication number on the display will go out.
    
   
4. Press the “ППМ” (Waypoints) push-light and it will illuminate.
    
   
5. On the Navigation Control panel keypad, set the new first WP by pressing the corresponding keypad button. The number (WP), will then be visible on the display.
    
   
6. Press the “ВВОД” (ENTER) push-light and the first WP will be saved into navigation computer memory.
    
   
7. Repeat this process for the next five WPs.
    
   
8. When complete, turn off the “ППМ” (Waypoints) mode. The new WP sequence will be saved in navigation computer memory.
    
   
9. To activate the new route, press the “ППМ” (Waypoints) push-light again (the number of the first WP and navigation data will appear in the display) and check the correct flight direction to the new, first WP of the route.
    
   
10. Engage ROUTE mode by setting the “МАРШРУТ-СНИЖЕНИ" (ROUTE – DESCENT) switch on the collective to the ROUTE position. According to the selected DH or DT sub-mode, the “МАРШРУТ ЗК” or “МАРШРУТ ЛЗП” (DH ROUTE or DT ROUTE) lights will illuminate and the helicopter will initiate automatic turns to complete the new route.
    

 

BTW, RTFM ;)

 

("F" for Funny :D )

Edited October 11, 2010 by Martillo1

[LukeFF]

Thanks!

 

BTW, RTFM ;)

 

("F" for Funny :D )

 

Yeah, yeah, I know. ;) I figured it was as simple as setting something on the PVI-800 to "reverse" mode, hence why I didn't find anything in the manual. One learns something new every day. :book:

[Frederf]

I remember programming the waypoints flow in reverse order (or whatever order you want).

 

From the manual:

 

1. Changing WP Sequence in Flight When you wish to change the WP sequence, you can perform the following procedure:
   
2. Disengage ROUTE mode by setting the “МАРШРУТ-СНИЖЕНИЕ” (ROUTE - DESCENT) switch on the collective to the neutral position.
   
3. Turn off the “ППМ” (Waypoints) push-light on the PVI-800 Navigation Control panel. This light and the WP indication number on the display will go out.
   
4. Press the “ППМ” (Waypoints) push-light and it will illuminate.
   
5. On the Navigation Control panel keypad, set the new first WP by pressing the corresponding keypad button. The number (WP), will then be visible on the display.
   
6. Press the “ВВОД” (ENTER) push-light and the first WP will be saved into navigation computer memory.
   
7. Repeat this process for the next five WPs.
   
8. When complete, turn off the “ППМ” (Waypoints) mode. The new WP sequence will be saved in navigation computer memory.
   
9. To activate the new route, press the “ППМ” (Waypoints) push-light again (the number of the first WP and navigation data will appear in the display) and check the correct flight direction to the new, first WP of the route.
   
10. Engage ROUTE mode by setting the “МАРШРУТ-СНИЖЕНИ" (ROUTE – DESCENT) switch on the collective to the ROUTE position. According to the selected DH or DT sub-mode, the “МАРШРУТ ЗК” or “МАРШРУТ ЛЗП” (DH ROUTE or DT ROUTE) lights will illuminate and the helicopter will initiate automatic turns to complete the new route.
    

 

BTW, RTFM ;)

 

("F" for Funny :D )

 

You'll find that that procedure is complete fiction. It doesn't work at all.

[Haril]

It used to work in previous versions. It was "fixed" in, I think, 1.02. I miss it.

[Frederf]

I've tried it in every version.

[Haril]

Try harder? <shrug> Worked for me fine in 1 and 1.01. I was reversing waypoints all over the place.

[Martillo1]

You'll find that that procedure is complete fiction. It doesn't work at all.

 

It worked in previous version. I have not tried it in 1.02 yet.

 

But it worked in 1.01.

 

P.S.: It works in 1.02. I have tested it.

Edited October 16, 2010 by Martillo1

[Frederf]

Yup, did it several times. No workie. Martillo, ya think I might have actually read the manual? Ya think I've only tried it in 1.01c? http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=37683 February 2009. Patch 1.01 came out in August 2009.

 

So I'm not in ROUTE mode. I turn off the WP task light and then back on.

6-Enter-5-Enter-4-Enter-3-Enter-2-Enter-1-Enter

The WP task light goes off by itself automatically.

I turn the WP task light back on (I've also tried on-off-on)

WPs are the same coordinates they used to be before the procedure.

 

If you've got it to work. Please specify exactly your key presses because we must be doing different things or have different environments.

Edited October 16, 2010 by Frederf

[Martillo1]

Yup, did it several times. No workie. Martillo, ya think I might have actually read the manual? Ya think I've only tried it in 1.01c? http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=37683 February 2009. Patch 1.01 came out in August 2009.

 

So I'm not in ROUTE mode. I turn off the WP task light and then back on.

6-Enter-5-Enter-4-Enter-3-Enter-2-Enter-1-Enter

The WP task light goes off by itself automatically.

I turn the WP task light back on (I've also tried on-off-on)

WPs are the same coordinates they used to be before the procedure.

 

If you've got it to work. Please specify exactly your key presses because we must be doing different things or have different environments.

 

I will let this track speak for me. I hope it helps you.

reverse_waypoints.trk

[Frederf]

It appears that re-sequencing the WPTs does not change the WP#/Lat.Long associations, it just changes the order that the ROUTE mode flies them. So if WP1 was 43.4/044.9 before, it will be the same after. The only change is that instead of the route going 1->2->3->4 it might go 1->3->4->2 instead.

 

That appear to work. What a long time spent because what the procedure actually does was not communicated. Is there any way to look up what the current sequence is for the 6 WPs?

Edited October 17, 2010 by Frederf

[Martillo1]

Why would you want to change the coordinates of the waypoints? The way it is, you can check the waypoints in the ABRIS or your notes, something you could not do by "swapping" coordinates between waypoints. The sequence is first the natural, and after the change you make, is the one you entered.

 

Anyway, you can introduce new coordinates for a waypoint at any time, or create new waypoints (up to six).

Edited October 17, 2010 by Martillo1
precisiуn

[Frederf]

It's not a question of what I wanted but what I expected. I expected that the waypoint slots always proceed in a 1-2-3-4-5-6 order while the waypoints themselves (lat/long numbers) would be re-sequenced within those available slots.

 

I know how to do everything else.

[Martillo1]

Well, in that case you can indeed say that PVI-800 dos not fulfil your expectations.