Pirke77 Posted December 16, 2010 Posted December 16, 2010 Hi In my country 20 years ago was incident when jet fighter plane have failure of ailerons jamming in the full right position in dive of 20 degrees with speed of 500km/h on 1000m altitude. Plane get in non stop rolling to the right and going to the ground and pilot eject on last second and survive. Pilot say that stick was full controllable for elevator forward and backward but left and right stick going but ailerons stay in jammed in full right position for rolling. I try to simulate this kind of failure in FC2 with Mig29a. Climb on 3000m and dive and when speed is around 500km/h apply full right stick to start rolling. Try all you can do with all commands to control plane but DONT MOVE STICK FROM FULL RIGHT POSITION to simulate ailerons jammed failure. stick only can go forward and backward. all other commands is full operable. Questions are : -can you control plane in this kind of failure ? -can you land plane in this situation ? -does anybody from real pilots know something about this failure situation or have simular expirience and is anywhere some procedures what to do in this kind of failure? p.s. I will upload my track tonight to give all of you time to test this failure , and see how was ended my reconstruction testing. see ya :)
OutOnTheOP Posted December 16, 2010 Posted December 16, 2010 Pilot did the right thing by ejecting; in a modern fighter aircraft, you have roll rates of around 270-360 degrees a second. Even if you had the reflexes to work the stick fast enough to modulate up- and down-inputs fast enough to correspond with a direction you'd like to turn (or climb), I'm not sure the aircraft would respond fast enough to overcome inertia before continuing the roll. At any rate, best you could do would be to maintain altitude until you got out of populated areas before you punched out. If you couldn't get the ailerons un-stuck, you're NEVER landing that bird
asparagin Posted December 16, 2010 Posted December 16, 2010 In FC 2.0 is not a lot you can do. For a more realistically situation you can try this in DCS A-10C. I know the A-10 has a "Aileron Emergency Disconnect switch". This can free up your jam. In A-10C you can also set some malfunctions in the mission editor, don't know if aileron jamming is one of them. Spoiler AMD Ryzen 9 5900X, MSI MEG X570 UNIFY (AM4, AMD X570, ATX), Noctua NH-DH14, EVGA GeForce RTX 3070 Ti XC3 ULTRA, Seasonic Focus PX (850W), Kingston HyperX 240GB, Samsung 970 EVO Plus (1000GB, M.2 2280), 32GB G.Skill Trident Z Neo DDR4-3600 DIMM CL16, Cooler Master 932 HAF, Samsung Odyssey G5; 34", Win 10 X64 Pro, Track IR, TM Warthog, TM MFDs, Saitek Pro Flight Rudders
Pirke77 Posted December 16, 2010 Author Posted December 16, 2010 (edited) ok look this and enjoy :) -first you must use speed break and flaps (below 500km/h) -full opposite rudder(in this case left rudder) -pull in stick to the end and wait to plane come in critical angle of attack -when ailerons in shadows in this second flight regime on critical angles of attack rudders have better response and use it for banking and controlling plane. -use throttle for climb and speed regulations -all flight is on critical angles of attack with stick on your stomach. -fly over secured area and eject or try to land like me :) this was tested in FC2 and IL2 Sturmovik 4.09m and test are with same results - i save plane and pilot life :)mig29a.rar Edited December 16, 2010 by Pirke77
Pirke77 Posted December 17, 2010 Author Posted December 17, 2010 (edited) i see all have big interesting for this very hard failure :) see in what situation you can perform this . look how i done this on Mig29a one wing flying :) and you have good situation to think on this video :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqVG28z5Lcs&feature=player_embeddedmig29a one wing flying.rar Edited December 17, 2010 by Pirke77
Recommended Posts