Targettting info and the barren TAD

[coolts]

I have been re-familiarising myself with A-10 with beta 4 and am having trouble with task saturation, especially in the mission “defend camp yankee”. The main issues are as follows;

 

JTAC rattles off 4 target locations with multiple ZSU’s at each, but then only gives one “red triangle” on the TAD. Is this normal? He does call out relative locations, “3 miles southwest”, for instance. Is that a relative distance from the red triangle or from his locatopn? If that is so, i should really be writing that all down. Or should I be doing some fancy CDU stuff to store the locations?

 

Fellow CAS flight Bore 2-1 is also listing targets, but he is just listing co-ordinates, and nothing is appearing in the TAD. What am I supposed to do here? Write them down as well? Will TAD targets appear in a later beta? I don’t want to give up and go back to labels but I was flying around last night like a highly armed weather balloon whilst the war raged below me. Very frustrating in a “I’m doing this wrong” kind of way.

[Bubb]

You can store your targets as markpoints using the TGP prior to initiating an attack.

 

If you are getting coordinates of enemy forces not through the JTAC then write them down, create a new waypoint or markpoint using these coordinates and slave your TGP to STPT.

 

Regarding the bearing callouts. I think someone in these forums posted once that all calls are relative to YOU. I might be wrong tho.

[nomdeplume]

AI flights should be calling targets using bullseye references. You can use the BULLS/CURS mode on the TAD to help you work out the location they're referring to, and make a markpoint there if you wish.

 

JTAC will give you the location of a target group, which is provided as MGRS coordinates in the 9-line briefing and also datalinked to you (red triangle on the TAD) and in a text message.

 

After the 9-line briefing, they tell you to advise when you're ready for further comments, or something like that. When you do so, they'll tell you which weapon they want to use, possibly provide further clarification on what your target is and where to find it, and also provide the location of any nearby air defences they know about. These are provided as a direction and range relative to your target, i.e. they aren't the target themselves, but if they're telling to do a guns run a truck convoy maybe you'd like to know there's a Shilka 1 mile north of their position before it starts shooting at you. :)

 

Don't know if there'll be more target symbols on the datalink in the future, guess we'll see. Some types of aircraft will transmit their SPI when they've got a target so you'll be able to see that on the TAD, which can help with SA.

[coolts]

create a new waypoint or markpoint using these coordinates and slave your TGP to STPT.

 

thats the bit i need to re-read in the manual. making use of all thos co-ordinates flying around without going heads down in the CDU (which is still a mystery to me ;))

 

AI flights should be calling targets using bullseye references. You can use the BULLS/CURS mode on the TAD to help you work out the location they're referring to, and make a markpoint there if you wish.

 

Never tried this. So, you move the cursor around till the co-ordinates match what your heard and hit TMS-right to save as markopiint? seems very fiddly.

 

Some types of aircraft will transmit their SPI when they've got a target so you'll be able to see that on the TAD, which can help with SA.

 

Thats what i've been reyling on. Hooking the other aircrafts SPI and slaving tgp, then creatiing a markpoint. It seems a bit hit and miss though. Not being able to create my own targets on the TAD is a bit strange to a BS/ABRIS vet.

Edited January 13, 2011 by coolts

[nomdeplume]

Well the real way to use bullseye calls is to know your own location and work it out where it is in relation to you. If you can do that quickly (as a pilot ought to be able to), then placing the TAD cursor in the right place is quick.

[jazjar]

Hey, according to page 313-312 of the manual, there are supposed to be 4 different symbols on the TAD. I only see one of them regularly, shouldn't these help SA?

[nomdeplume]

Excellent question. The manual makes no mention of how the symbols indicating enemy forces should make it to your plane. I'm pretty just doing the "wait and see" thing here, maybe there's more to come in this regard with future development.

[coolts]

Its an area that is so far very underdeveloped at least in the beta manual compared to the clear and detalied info on ABRIS / Datalink integration in the KA-50 manual. Oh, well, it is a beta after all. I need to force myself to go through the CDU chapters anyway. Must not start ironing socks instead. :music_whistling:

 

Well the real way to use bullseye calls is to know your own location and work it out where it is in relation to you. If you can do that quickly (as a pilot ought to be able to), then placing the TAD cursor in the right place is quick.

 

I am not that strong in the force yet ;)

Edited January 13, 2011 by coolts

[jazjar]

Hey, ED, do you plan to implement the symbols I mentioned in the Final Release?