Helo formations will not fly faster than 47kts

[Bahger]

Try it, ED. A 3-ship of UH-60s will not cruise faster than 47kts because it appears that the AI cannot manage the formation. Something else that worked fine in the Betas now appears completely borked and the only workaround I can see is to limit my Blackhawk flight to one unit.

 

AI Hogs circle constantly after takeoff. Helos cannot form up and cruise faster than a Ford Focus in 3rd gear. How can the AI be such a mess? How can ED expect longevity for the sim when the AI, and therefore the possibilities for mission design, are in this dreadful state? How can this have passed muster for the Release when functionality in both cases cited above was 100% better in Beta? It's really rather sad.

[Inseckt]

Are you sure you are considering the priority of speed vs. ETA logic?

 

There are several know bugs, if the releases had to be absolutley perfect in every aspect and to everyones particular needs, we would get one module every 50 years or so... And as stated, patches are coming!

[airdog]

Try it, ED. A 3-ship of UH-60s will not cruise faster than 47kts because it appears that the AI cannot manage the formation. Something else that worked fine in the Betas now appears completely borked and the only workaround I can see is to limit my Blackhawk flight to one unit.

 

AI Hogs circle constantly after takeoff. Helos cannot form up and cruise faster than a Ford Focus in 3rd gear. How can the AI be such a mess? How can ED expect longevity for the sim when the AI, and therefore the possibilities for mission design, are in this dreadful state? How can this have passed muster for the Release when functionality in both cases cited above was 100% better in Beta? It's really rather sad.

 

And to think that I thought 12-21-2012 was the end of the world...after I read the above I guess that I am sadly mistaken

[Bahger]

No logic conflicts, Insekt, because no hard TOTs with mandated ETAs anywhere on the route.

 

Check out the attached test mission:

 

4 Helo flights, all with default cruise altitude (1640ft MSL) and airspeed (108kts) values:

 

- The 2 southern flights comprise (i) a single unit and (ii) a 2-ship. Both flights get snarled in the "circle after takeoff" glitch and neither can reach the plotted airspeed, managing ~50kts at best. The single unit does better but after appearing to climb out, starts orbiting for no reason. Neither flight can follow its flight plan nor get anywhere close to cruise airspeed.

 

- The 2 northern flights comprise (i) a single unit and (ii) a 3-ship. Unlike the southern flights, both of these are air-starts but the 3-ship cannot fly faster than ~ 47kts in formation and never approaches its cruising speed. Only the single-unit flight, air-started, behaves as it's plottted, reaching an acceptable 108kt cruising airspeed and heading straight for its first waypoint without needless orbiting, formation snafus and slow-as-molasses airspeed.

 

It's bloody awful.

Edited March 8, 2011 by Bahger

[Chizh]

Try it, ED. A 3-ship of UH-60s will not cruise faster than 47kts because it appears that the AI cannot manage the formation.

Thanks.

Bug is wrote down.

[Bahger]

Thanks Chizh. I'm going to avoid both AI runway starts and helo formations in mission design pending confirmation that a patch has addressed these issues and hope I do not run into too many more AI/ME glitches of this severity. There is so much that is truly spectacular about this product but these problems interfere with its potential to be taken seriously as a simulation of the modern battlefield.