Sukhoi18 Posted January 17, 2012 Posted January 17, 2012 Which is the better all around aircraft in terms of reliability and capability? Now I am a mig fan as well. And in the 29s defense. The export models were downgraded considerably and flown mostly by incompetent fools as well as poorly maintained.
RIPTIDE Posted January 17, 2012 Posted January 17, 2012 (edited) Su-27>Su-33>>>>>>>> ... >>>>>>> MiG-29A. Correct me if I'm wrong, but in Russia the MiG-29A is considered an Airbase defence platform. NOT air superiority or much else. Edited January 17, 2012 by RIPTIDE [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
EtherealN Posted January 17, 2012 Posted January 17, 2012 (edited) Not sure if "airbase defence" is the right way to put it, "point-defence" would be more appropriate I think. (What you defend can be anything - a base, a city, a port, etcetera.) But yeah, pretty much. Can think of it sort of like the difference between F-15A and F-16A in the A2A role, with the former being air superiority and the latter being interceptor/point defence. (Slammers and further upgrades have changed things for the F-16 of course, but the same holds true for the newer MiG variants.) Edited January 17, 2012 by EtherealN [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Daniel "EtherealN" Agorander | Даниэль "эфирныйн" Агорандер Intel i7 2600K @ 4.4GHz, ASUS Sabertooth P67, 8GB Corsair Vengeance @ 1600MHz, ASUS GTX 560Ti DirectCU II 1GB, Samsung 830series 512GB SSD, Corsair AX850w, two BENQ screens and TM HOTAS Warthog DCS: A-10C Warthog FAQ | DCS: P-51D FAQ | Remember to read the Forum Rules | | | Life of a Game Tester
leafer Posted January 17, 2012 Posted January 17, 2012 I love them both, they just strangely beautiful in a rugged way, but I'd take an Su-27 over a Mig-29. ED have been taking my money since 1995. :P
Sukhoi18 Posted January 17, 2012 Author Posted January 17, 2012 I love them both, they just strangely beautiful in a rugged way, but I'd take an Su-27 over a Mig-29. I do like them both as well. But since the fulcrum lacks fly by wire it would seem that the pilot has a larger man to machine connection vs a fly by wire equipped plane.
GGTharos Posted January 17, 2012 Posted January 17, 2012 Not really. Just because you have fly by wire (rudimentary for the flanker by comparison to say an F-16 or more so to a raptor) that doesn't excuse you from knowing how your aircraft flies - it just makes handling more carefree and possibly a bit easier. As for 'better aircraft', better at what? :) A MiG-29A is good for defending a small patch of territory by using ambush tactics or quick raids. It is generally accepted that a large number of cheap fighters can be good defensive aircraft if used properly. The Su-27 is an air superiority fighter - it's job is to take and hold airspace. The Su-33 is meant to protect the submarine fleet from anti-submarine aircraft. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
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