Problems with HAWK and M270 Artillery

[STP Dragon]

Hi ED Testers,

 

please try to reproduce this problem:

 

 

HAWK:

It will not fire on targets below their own altetude.

The HAWK-site in the test mission is extracted from an old BlackShark (1) mission.

In BS1 it was working.

If I change the HAWK to a BUK it is working again.

The BUK will immediately fire.

 

 

M270 Artillery:

It will not "fire at point" without line of sight. This was working in v1.1.1.1.

_TEST_.miz

HAWK_and_M270.trk

[Eddie]

Can't replicate any issue with the MLRS, they're working fine here.

 

As for the HAWK, good, it shouldn't be able to engage a target below its own elevation.

[STP Dragon]

Hi Eddie, thank you for the response. :thumbup:

 

Can't replicate any issue with the MLRS, they're working fine here.

You are using the next version? So that means it is fixed in the next patch?

 

As for the HAWK, good, it shouldn't be able to engage a target below its own elevation.

Why? Shouldn't a SAM be placed on top of the hill to avoid that the enemy can hide behind a hill? :huh:

 

By the way: With BUK it is working and I hope that this will work in future too. :music_whistling:

[Eddie]

Why? Shouldn't a SAM be placed on top of the hill to avoid that the enemy can hide behind a hill? :huh:

There is a difference between locating missile firing batteries in positions that offer them an unobstructed view, and placing them on top of a mountain and asking them to fire on target seveal thousand feet below.

 

RADARs, especially older ones such as that in the HAWK system cannot handle ground clutter very well at all. Ground clutter is why SAMs have an altitude below which they cannot engage targets, once a target gets to low altitude, the ground itself is in the RADARs field of view and that creates problems. If you were trying to engage a target in the scenario you have in your mission, the RADAR is looking at the ground. Therefore ground clutter would be filling the entire RADAR FOV, meaning it'd be almost impossible for the RADAR system to even detect a target, let alone engage it.

 

Then there is also the fact that the RADAR & launchers cannot be angled in such a way as would be needed to track or engage a target below them.

 

For more modern RADAR, such as the SA-11, ground clutter is less of an issue. But I'd still be surprised if they could engage a target well below their own elevation.

 

And of course all this is ignoring the fact that is would be near impossible to actually get a SAM firing battery in to the position you have it in your mission.

[STP Dragon]

OK, thank you for the explaination. :thumbup:

 

And of course all this is ignoring the fact that is would be near impossible to actually get a SAM firing battery in to the position you have it in your mission.

 

Ah... nothing is impossible and in this case the gameplay is prio #1. :D