PeterP Posted July 28, 2012 Posted July 28, 2012 (edited) Hello, just want to put your attention on it. You probably have missed to refresh the Su-25T code to show also the trim-diamond in the control-indicator like it is done in the A-10 and Ka-50. Not that this is a must - but it would be nice ! and it would help many new folks to get a guess why their plane behaves like it does. :) Do it for the Newbies!!! Well - its not a problem at all for me- I use a FFB controller , but I saw some threads where problems could easily solved when people had this info visible instead only watching some green lights that goes on or off:) I always thought " People! why you are complaining ?!- just bring up the damn control-indicator and you will know how you are trimmed!!"...but than I realised that it isn't so easy.... (serious: after I did my tests to day I really in awe how people can control the su-25t without it and without FFB...I don't want to mentioning the KA-50... :D ) The probably most "popular" thread that includes many complains that can be solved by adding this: Constantly rolling to one side? And here is my post that's referring to this observation: Hi <((((><, (how do I pronounce it ?! - just Fish or a particular species?) Had some flying around in the Su-25T without FFB to see what you experience and where your problems are buried. Gosh! It can be really tricky when you are not used to it! First: I discovered that the Su-25T don't shows a trim-diamond when you bring up the control-indicator... That's a miss from ED - having it visible (like in the A-10) would make it much easier for everyone that has a in game view without the stick visible to know where they are heading... People are forced to always have the head down when disabling the AP. Maybe this trim-diamond can be add for a next version? (I didn't checked up to now - is this a reported issue? - should I open a Thread in the Bugs+problems section, so ED and testers are better aware of it ?) -anyway- Here is a Hot tip to not get lost after disengaging the AP ( - to be more clear: I'm not talking of the "A"-key. I'm talking of "LAlt+9") : ! in Genaral !: Please don't move your the stick while using any AP mode - this will force the AP to counteract your movement . And this makes this "trim-issue" even more worse when disengaging AP. It is called "Auto-pilot" for a good reason! - and it's not "Auto-pilot and and I" ! - no need to take over control when the AP is in charge. - "auto" means really "automatic" and/or "autonomous" in this context - the AP is not designed to get "help" from you Right? - Right! The tip: Instead of disengaging the AP completely (As long your flight profile allows this and e.g. you are not already in a attack run...) First switch to "Transition To Level Flight Control" >LAlt+3 This will bring your plane to a stable flight and than disengage the AP by hitting LAlt+9. So you don't have to fear to fight the trim. Again: Instead of just disengaging the AP instantly > first use "Transition To Level Flight Control" LAlt+3. Than disengage AP (after you have reached a stable level flight-condition). So map this function (LAlt+3) somewhere you can always reach it instantly. Got it ?! -right! Please try - and I'm confident that this procedure will save you from a lot of trouble. Edited July 28, 2012 by PeterP
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